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Posted By Discussion Topic: Issue Matching Title # to Car -- page: 1 2 3     Ketronj281989 08-06-2020 @ 5:25 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 143 Joined: Jul 2020 As I am preparing the car for an out of state inspection (car moving FROM OH to my HOME KY) I have run into a dilemma. After inspecting the front frame and transmission inspection plate area, I have located both matching serial numbers of the car *18-2892373* Both numbers on the frame and transmission area are matching! This is great news. The issue is the title identification number. The title ID number shows: 3051390. I cannot find this number on the car. My question is, would this be a type of number that resides on the engine block or somewhere else on the car. Possibly a production type number that all model 68 cars had in 1936? I am running out of ideas and have scoured much of the car looking for this number. Still trying to match, if not able I will run into major problems. The car has been in OH since 1936, perhaps a reason the serial number was not recorded or lost, who knows. Would this number be another type of number on the frame or engine components that would ID this car? Thanks, Jon juergen 08-06-2020 @ 5:37 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 254 Joined: Jan 2010 The title you have should have read 18-3051390 and is for another car. In some states you can retitle your car with the correct number by getting a security bond and bill of sale and going through your DOT. silverchief 08-06-2020 @ 8:59 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 517 Joined: Oct 2009 You could be in for a real hassle, including purchasing a bond for several hundred dollars that is supposed to insure the car is not stolen. My 1946 had been easily titled in three states before I moved to my present location. Here, because it is antique, it was required that a state trooper verify the identifying number on the car. It was not legible on the frame or on the transmission. During the next month I made six trips to various BMV offices, a trip to the local state patrol headquarters, and a trip to the "Citizens Help Committee" in the governor's office. (They did nothing.) Leaving the Governor's office I passed by the office of my state representative. He was not in, but thinking I had nothing to lose, I left a written memo detailing my predicament with his secretary. Forty eight hours later I received a phone call from the BMV advising the title for my car was in the mail. Lesson learned. I later returned to thank him personally, and hope you don't run into the same nightmare. therunwaybehind 08-06-2020 @ 9:27 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 180 Joined: May 2019 This is why I make political donations now that I am retired. I once tried visiting my representative but they were moving their office. Then I tried a different representative with a higher profile on the other side of the state where my girl friend had moved. I was able to get a detailed map of how that county and district was planned to develop so I was assured that her home would not be condemned in at least the next 10 years. Each of us needs a representative beyond museum memberships and charities for the times when we are truly out in the woods. Yes, they lose elections , even primaries, and sensitive issues may come up that we would not want our name on a wall or a brick. 3w2 08-06-2020 @ 5:54 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 815 Joined: Oct 2009 Your problem could be even more complex if you should draw a KY registrar who knows anything about early Ford VINs, i.e. their engine numbers. There were no seven-digit engine numbers in the '32 model year. The highest documented number of a U.S.-built '32 is 18-208XXX. This means that the transmission is not original to the car and that the number on the frame has been altered. While it has been a long time since I titled a car in Ohio, the historic practice was that the number of the title did not appear anywhere on the car. Hopefully you have a notarized bill of sale and if so, I'd go hat in hand to the registrar and attempt to title the car from scratch using the seven-digit engine/transmission/frame number. (No identification numbers appeared on the engine itself originally, only on the transmission bell housing and on three places on top of the left frame rail with only the forward-most of those numbers visible with the body on the frame. If you ever pull the body off the frame, I'll bet it won't be a seven digit number that you encounter about midway and just forward of the kick up for the rear axle.) 3w2 08-06-2020 @ 6:19 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 815 Joined: Oct 2009 The more I think about your situation, the more it begins to have the odor of "stolen car" about it. It is highly unusual to change the frame number when a later transmission is installed rather than change the number on the transmission and leave the original number on the frame untouched as that's the number it had been titled with originally. Someone was either incredibly stupid or had a reason to disconnect the car's identification from its original titled i.d. and if the latter, the #1 suspect for a reason would be grand theft auto unless the car is made up of major parts from various cars. This message was edited by 3w2 on 8-6-20 @ 6:23 PM MG 08-06-2020 @ 11:59 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1248 Joined: Nov 2009 You don't say what year your car is. Is it a '32 or a '36? Given the matching numbers on the frame and transmission, I suspect that a unique number was assigned to the car when the car was first registered in Ohio - a registration procedure unique to Ohio back in 1936. Maybe in the Ohio DMV Registration Data Base, if they input that number, a record of your car will appear which shows the actual serial number your car has - *18-2892373* . I recommend that you go to the Ohio DMV and quiz them as to the origin of the number on the title slip you have. Ketronj281989 08-07-2020 @ 6:59 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 143 Joined: Jul 2020 juergen, I am thinking the same thing. This car came from a collection of 50 cars. Upon death of that owner several years ago, the daughters were in charge of the estate and sold this 1936 Ford to the person (2018) I purchased it from (2020). I may go the route of a re-title with matching serial number to this car if it comes down to fixing the problem. Thanks for your input. Jon Ketronj281989 08-07-2020 @ 7:01 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 143 Joined: Jul 2020 silverchief, I figured so at this stage of the game. I should of looked into the matter a little more seriously prior to purchasing the car. Thank you for sharing your experience, I will use this as a model while further progress is made on the title. Jon Ketronj281989 08-07-2020 @ 7:02 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 143 Joined: Jul 2020 therunwaybehind, Thank you for sharing your experience and input on the matter. Jon

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