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Issue Matching Title # to Car
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JayChicago |
08-07-2020 @ 7:03 AM
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His car is a '36. Don't understand how '32 came into this discussion to confuse the issue.
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Ketronj281989 |
08-07-2020 @ 7:08 AM
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3w2, Thank you for the guidance on looking into the suggestion of making a new title from scratch. This may be the route I have to go. I did not know that about Ohio back then. Would sure make sense around that time period. This is a 1936 car, the transmission and front crossmember/fire wall area frame numbers match. They have never been altered, stars still present on both sets of number too. They are matching and original. Jon
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Ketronj281989 |
08-07-2020 @ 7:12 AM
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MG, The car is 1936. I will further investigate within the OH DMV Data Base. You bring up some great points. Hopefully they can shed some light on the matter. I have the factory serial number in hand now, so have at least one foot in the door should this possibly work. Jon
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MG |
08-07-2020 @ 10:54 AM
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JayChicago - The '18' in the serial number Ketronj has represents the 1932 Model Year. 1932 Ford aka Model 18....
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3w2 |
08-07-2020 @ 11:32 AM
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Sorry for the confusion I created by thinking of '32s. i tend to have them on my brain at all times. The 18 prefix was used on all U.S.-built V8 Fords throughout the 1930s, except for a few '33s which carried a 40 prefix before reverting to the 18 prefix.
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40 Coupe |
08-08-2020 @ 5:37 AM
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Why is the Title marked "conversion" ?
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42wagon |
08-08-2020 @ 8:15 AM
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MG The #18- prefix was used on all Ford V-8 engines starting with 18-1 in 1932 and continuing sequentially up to 1942. Ford started using different prefixes after the war. Therefore Ketron's number on the car is correct including the 18- prefix for 36. The fact that he has a title with a different number is troublesome as he cannot prove the car he is standing next to is in fact the car he purchased. What is probable is that if this car came from a collection of 50 cars he was given the wrong title by mistake.
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trjford8 |
08-08-2020 @ 8:26 AM
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In reading your post and looking at the V-8 Club's 35-36 book your car was produced in April 1936 according to the frame and transmission number. I would go to the Ohio DMV with title and a copy of the 35-36 book and show them the # on the title is incorrect. If you have any other old documents showing prior owners, etc. take the documents with you. The Ohio DMV should make the correction and explain what "conversion" means on the title. As 42 wagon suggests that title may have come from another '36 that was in the collection when the collection was sold. This may take awhile to sort this out , but it is not impossible. Some states years ago were non title states and I wonder if Ohio was one of those?
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Mr Rogers |
08-08-2020 @ 3:34 PM
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My vote is: at some time the paper title was lost at a re-sold time. Seller provided a "bill of sale" and new buyer didn't look at body for ID #. Applied for new title and new number was next to be issued by DMV. Talking out loud .... I believe if/when you move to your new location the DMV person looking at the frame number and a Ford Doc showing authentic area ... and looking at your Bill of Sale would re-title it.
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kirkstad |
08-09-2020 @ 10:23 AM
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My 36 has matching frame and trans. numbers. In NJ when changing a title on an antique auto it has to be mailed to Trenton,and not done at a local DMV. When I received the new title,they had added an additional number, original number being 182937169, the number they assigned was 1823937169 an easy mistake I guess. Fortunately I kept a copy of the old title and was able to get it corrected locally,but now my title reads as a corrected title which is annoying, because I will have to make sure I keep all these records to answer any new owners questions about it. If I hadn't made a copy of the old title I would of had a very difficult time getting it corrected, because the burden of prove would be on me. I do notice that my NJ title does not have a title number, but the state I purchased the car does, perhaps at some point a title number was assigned instead of the VIN. number, as in my case DMV does make mistakes.
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