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kubes40

04-21-2021 @ 7:15 AM

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I believe it may be time to refresh many folks as to what a number of words actually mean.
There are many that are so incorrectly used, well, it frustrates me.
Hemming's, many years ago, would include in every issue what certain terms meant. It was way to educate folks.
Time to bring that back?

I'll start with one word that is way too often misused.
"RESTORATION".
I see ad after ad for a "restored" car and get excited only to open the ad and see the same car advertised with (example) 12v. "upgrade", Scot Blower, custom interior, etc.

Restoration means to bring something back ("restore") to it's original condition.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth

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04-21-2021 @ 4:43 PM

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Mike,

Next two words on the list of those words over and/or misused in this hobby are: 'original' and 'barn find'.

Dave

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04-21-2021 @ 5:21 PM

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David, I could not agree more.

Recently there was an "all Henry steel" bodied car advertised. Within the same paragraph as the "all Henry steel", the seller described the numerous body panels that had been replaced.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth

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04-28-2021 @ 2:55 PM

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04-28-2021 @ 3:27 PM

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Appropriate? Rat Rod? Surely you jest, Sir.

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04-28-2021 @ 4:04 PM

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And then there is "classic".
Guys, just because the car is old does not mean it is a classic. It just means it's old.

There are no "classic" Ford V8's. There is a definite criteria to be met in order for a car to be a "classic".

Definition: A Full Classic is a “Fine” or “Distinctive” automobile. American or foreign built, produced only between 1915 and 1948. Many factors come into play but, generally, a Classic was a high-priced, top end vehicle when new and was built in limited quantities. No "Mass produced" assembly line vehicles are considered Classics. Other factors, including higher engine displacement, custom bespoke coachwork and luxury accessories. Mechanical developments such as power brakes, power clutch, and “one-shot” or automatic lubrication systems, help determine whether a car is considered to be a Classic.

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Well, shucks. Legitimate is another word that has no place in the definition of a rat rod, and as a curious point to consider, the term Rat Rod defies any definition at all!

Alan

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So far I generally agree with Mike, David and Alan. Here are my exceptions.

Modified cars are part of every car manufacturer's heritage, but I don't believe that they can or should be classified and defined on this web site. The Early Ford V-8 Club mission is: "we are dedicated to the restoration and preservation of all Ford Motor Company vehicles built between 1932 and 1953." and hot rods do not fit into that mission. Also, there are not enough people who are involved in the Hot Rod culture and use this site to get a reasonable definition of the different terms.

I respectively disagree with Mike's definition of classic. I like the dictionary definition "judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind," which still puts it in the overuse category. Mike quoted the Classic Car Club of America's qualifications for being recognized as a "Classic" and shown on their Concourse. IMHO that is not a definition but a limiting factor used by a Club.

Two cars that I think deserve the title "classic" are Bob Hirhata's chopped 51 Mercury coupe and Nick Matranga's 40 Mercury Coupe. I personally do not like either of them, but the custom car community still holds them up as the best examples of the period.

Tom

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