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1937sedandelivery

08-24-2020 @ 11:01 AM

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I fished around in the muck with a magnetic screwdriver and didn't catch any pieces. Not to say that they are not there. The deepest part of the muck seems to be directly below the gear tray, where i can't get to.

As to the color of the muck...i filled it with new fluid not too long ago and the car is not driven very much. Perhaps cuz i live in h*ll hole Tucson, AZ.

Anyway, I moved the low/reverse gear to the rear (it slides very readily). Second gear won't budge. I tapped on it pretty good and no movement.

In the attached pic you can see some definite teeth chipping. Good size chunks are missing. It smells like i will need to remove the tranny and have somebody go through it. I was reading about the removal process. The entire rear end will need to be moved backwards??? yuck

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08-24-2020 @ 12:11 PM

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Yes, pull the tranny go through it. The rear end will have to be moved backwards. Its not that hard if you have .proper equipment. If not, be safe and have someone else do it.

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08-24-2020 @ 1:07 PM

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When you pull the trans, that is the time to examine your clutch, pressure plate and throwout bearing. You don't want to do that job twice.

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08-24-2020 @ 2:50 PM

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Thanks all.
Time to take care of business. I have the right equipment, but the motivation needs some improvement.
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08-24-2020 @ 3:10 PM

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Looking at your last photo, I don't think that the casting is broken off after all. Have you tried moving the shift lever now that it's out of the car? If so you need to dig deeper.

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08-24-2020 @ 5:52 PM

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I don't mean to be dense, but can you be more specific about the "shift lever". Not sure what i should pry on???
I did take a big screw driver and hammer to the second gear and tried moving it forward. No movement.

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08-24-2020 @ 8:45 PM

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I think that he is talking about the long rod you just removed. Put the base in a vice or bolt it down. You should be able to shift it into all gears smoothly

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08-25-2020 @ 5:16 AM

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Yes the transmission was in 1 & 2 at the same time. It appeared the 2 & 3 syncro was over driven into 2. The inner hub of the syncro has to be able move on the main shaft about 3/16" back and forth between 1 & 2nd. If it does not move or sticks in the 1 position that could overdrive the syncro outer sleeve when shifted into 2nd. when overdriven the 6 syncro balls will lock up outer sleeve. It appears, from your last photo, you now have the syncro outer sleeve in the neutral position. IMO leave the transmission in place and rinse it out with K1 several times, with the drain plug removed. rebuild the shift top mechanism since there appears to also be a problem there. Make sure you can move the syncro hub back and forth with ease on the main shaft then refill with 90 to 140W gear lube and reassemble and try it. It is possible from the appearance of the oil the bearing may now be bad or going bad and the transmission needs rebuilding very soon so be aware of noise. When you drain the oil make sure there are no parts in the oil or any K1 used for cleaning. Mac VanPelt has a great book and sells all the springs and balls for the top shifter. He also does rebuilding. Good luck.

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08-25-2020 @ 7:53 AM

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Guys, thanks again. I did notice the top shifter cover plate didn't seem to work as i thought it should. It looks easy enough to remove the screw and replace the balls and spring. Let me give it a whack. This is going to be a slow process. That's ok, i have my sedan delivery to cruise in...

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I had to recently rebuild my transmission due to it being used for a TV show Fargo. I believe that whoever was driving it shifted from 2nd to 1st not knowing that you had to stop to do that. Putting the top on somehow the synchro was to far back and the truck would not move forward. I called Van Pelt and he said that the synchro has to move back and forth. I put it in the middle and reinstalled the tower and it worked fine. Hope you get it working ok.

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