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EFV-8 Club Forum / 1940 Ford Discussion / Mike Kubarth, Lead Author

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10-03-2009 @ 6:09 PM
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This is a Topic which will be monitored by Mike Kubarth,lead Author for the NEW 1940 Ford Book under development. We thank you for your interest and input. Feel free to make comments about what you'd like to see in the new book. Start new discussions when appropriate. EFV8 Tech. Book Committee

FROM MIKE: I will do my absolute best to answer any and all questions / suggestions posted here in a timely manner. Note: It would help if the poster would start a 'NEW DISCUSSION' when appropriate. Otherwise, I can envision the possible oversight of a new post being 'lost' within differing subject matter when simply added/injected to an existing post dialog.
The NEW DISCUSSION option is available directly above the dialog box. Thanks guys!
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10-06-2009 @ 3:11 PM
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On 40 sedans, Standard & Deluxe, number of interior hand straps as well as location.

10-07-2009 @ 10:04 AM
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On the firewall, there are at least three hex bolts. Two for the mounting of the wiper motot and another for the battery clamp. What is the correct color for theses, plus any other similar fasteners at the firewall area. Thanks

10-07-2009 @ 5:32 PM
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Hi Ken,
The bolts that hold the wiper motor bracket to the (inner) cowl have always thought to have been painted body color. At this point that is the accepted 'standard' for judging. Here's where the confusion may come in ... I have seen factory photographs that although black & white (photos) the bolt heads appear to be 'bright' (cadmium). From a manufacturing stand point it would make little or no sense whatsoever for Ford to have painted these after the bracket was installed. Remember the bracket was always black. This will definitely be one thing that I research thoroughly in hopes of providing future restorer's with a definitive & documented answer.

The bolt that holds the battery clamp in place is raven black.

10-07-2009 @ 7:19 PM
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Mike,you may or not be aware but there are 40's that do not have the wiper bracket bolted to the firewall. I have seen two 40's where the wiper bracket is spot welded to the inside of the firewall(same as 39 convert and woody). I suspect that these are early cars. Just thought I would pass this on for info for the book.

10-07-2009 @ 7:29 PM
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Yes, I was aware of that. I had at one time a '40 convertible with just the bracket configuration you mention. As I recall it was spot welded to the cowl.
I wonder how many others may have found this? Like you, I am willing to bet this was VERY early.

10-08-2009 @ 8:20 PM
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Mike, check with Mike Johnston (we share the same last name) in Oxford, Michigan. He has a 40 with the same type of bracket spot welded to the firewall. I suspect the frame number on these cars would help determine how early in the '40 model that this occcurred.

10-09-2009 @ 11:00 AM
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Mike, Check the road lamp switch knob color. Should be the same as for 1939, beige, sand, butterscotch, what ever you want to call it, rather than maroon. Clarify the correct road lamps, Appleton and Unity as to their inscriptions. Same for the fog lights.
Clarify as to whether the rear gravel shield is a legitimate option. My '40 dealer album does not show it in the accessory section.

10-10-2009 @ 6:34 AM
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Good morning Vintageman,
You've posed a couple of good discussions / suggestions.
One I can reply to definitively at this time. That being the 'correctness' of a rear bumper gravel shield. The reason you do not find that shield within early Ford literature is it was not offered until approximately March, 1940. There are two separate letters that I possess that advise dealers of this 'new' option and it's subsequent availability.

The road lamps offered in 1940 were of the Unity design only. While no doubt later in 1940 one could acquire Appleton design lamps from the dealer, factory installed lamps in 1940 were Unity (only).

Ah, switch (knob) color... I can't at this time offer a 100% definitive answer so I will attempt to locate proof as to the correctness / authenticity of same.
I can tell you that it would 'seem' there was only one knob color, that being tan. However, the proverbial 'fly in the ointment' may suggest otherwise. I have had a number of sets of these lamps through the years and a few maroon knobs were integral of the kits.
As maroon dash knobs were not used past 1940 (at least for the next few years) I have thought that they (maroon) may have actually been supplied but not listed in the parts books as a separate (replacement) offering.
I have identical switches (sans knob color) that correspond to later years. Cream yellow, black & clear)so we can infer that Ford did at the very least attempt to match knob (switch) to the dash knobs.
I WILL do my best to locate any definitive proof on this subject!

10-10-2009 @ 6:50 AM
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You seem to be interested in accessories so I'd thought I'd share a less known point of (possible) interest with you in that regard.
'SWAN NECK' outer mirrors: We often (incorrectly) see pairs of these mirrors on 1940 Fords. The problem with this is the fact that the RIGHT SIDE mirror was not offered until approximately late April, 1940. Thus, cars built prior to that date should only show with one, that being the left side.

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