LOGIN
  • Post to the EFV-8 Forum
  • Post Classified Ads
  • Shop the Online Store
User Login

Not Registered Yet? Click Here to Sign Up!



(Forgot your Password?)
Remember me on this computer

Not registered yet?
REGISTER NOW!

Back to Home Page Show Forum Rules

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

FORUM RULES: Users agree to these Rules when using Forum.

The site administrator reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of the user agreement without prior notice to the user. It is the responsibility of the user to regularly review the terms of this agreement.

The user agrees to the following terms:

  1. All information that you provide to us for your membership is correct.
  2. You will not use your membership to spam, harrass, or exploit other members in any way.
  3. Vulgar, Abusive, Racist and Sexist Language will not be tolerated.
  4. Commercial-type sales postings will not be allowed.
  5. No mass posting or flooding of the boards is allowed.
  6. No Advertising of parts or cars; no Ebay or business/commercial ads (please use the "Classified" for ads Wanted or For Sale).
  7. VIEWING MULTIPLE TOPICS ON SCREEN: You can choose to see more than 10 Topics at a time ... Log In and choose "Preferences" from the top bar on the Forum page. Scroll down and Change the "Default Topics Returned" parameter to 25 or 50, and save the changes. Since this setting is stored in your browser 'cookies' (if enabled), it seems to use that stored value even if you are not logged in. So, if you use a PC that you haven't logged into the forum from, the setting still seem to remain at the default.
  8. EXTERNAL PHOTO LINKS ON FORUM: You can still use external photo links in your posts on the new forum. They follow the rules of any link in that they have to have the URL link qualified down to the full image file name (example: .jpg). The links will open in a new browser window, the same as an uploaded image attached to a post. Since an image attachment to any post does not display inline with the post, the results are the same. You can use multiple external links within a post. This link is from photos on a site from Don Clink's 'Deuce@75' albums:

    http://donclink.com/deuce_75_1/images/dscn2950.jpg

    Using links from photo sites such as Photobucket can help in "size" issue with uploaded attachment files. For best viewing in web browsers, photos should be around the 800x600 pixel range, and probably not more than 1024x768. Most cameras today store HUGE jpg image files, as the default settings are in the 7, 8, 10, and 12Mb image sizes. The image files that are then attached are very large, and the browser can't display the full image size without using the scroll bars. Use the re-sizing functions of your photo editing software to reduce the image to 800x600, which reduces the file sixe and the image load time in the browser. Don uses Google's free Picassa3 software, which is an excellent photo management product. All of the photo albums of the Deuce, Grand National, and Auburn that are links on the NORG site were built using Picassa's web creation functions. And it's free? (THANKS to Don Clink for the info!)
  9. HOW DO I SHOW MY EMAIL ADDRESS ALONG WITH MY USERNAME? You can LogIn on the Forum, and select PREFERENCES. On this page Members can add optional information such as their City,State, Country; Occupation; Hobbies: list a Homepage; list AOL Instant Messanger Handle; Signature; "Make Email Address viewable to others;" and even change the number of Default Topics shown on a page. WHEN others click on your profile, they will see this information.

EFV-8 Club Forum / General Lincoln Discussion / Steering play

   Reply to this DiscussionReply to Discussion | Start new discussionNew Discussion << previous || next >> 
Posted By Discussion Topic: Steering play

Printer-friendly Version  send this discussion to a friend  new posts last

Lightning
08-03-2019 @ 2:05 PM
Member
Posts: 2
Joined: Aug 2019
          
I have a 1948 Lincoln five window coupe. My steering has more play than I am comfortable with. I have copies of the Ford manual for the steering box and pictures that go with it, but I couldn't figure what to do to remove the play. I see that there are shims. Do you do something with them. Also there is the adjusting screw and locking nut at the bottom of he box. Can that be used to adjust play? Thanks for your advice

TomO
08-05-2019 @ 8:50 PM
Senior
Posts: 7234
Joined: Oct 2009
          
In most cases the play is caused by worn parts in the steering liknage (tie rod end, drag link end, king pins). I like to check for wear by jacking up one front wheel and trying to move it by turning it like it is making a turn. There should be no movement when you try this. If there is, check to see where the movement is and replace the worn parts. A looses steering box can also cause play.

If the linkage is not the cause of the play, you will probably have to rebuild the steering box with a ne worm and roller.

Tom

TomO
08-13-2019 @ 7:52 AM
Senior
Posts: 7234
Joined: Oct 2009
          
You should not start a new topic to reply to a topic, just click on the REPLY box in the heading

The screw on the steering box adjusts the clearance between the roller and the worm gear. It is adjusted when the box is assembled and should not need further adjustment. If someone has adjusted it it could cause play in the steering. Over tightening this adjustment will lead to hard steering an wear on the worm gear.

To adjust: jack up the front end and remove the drag link from the Pittman arm. Turn the steering wheel from lock to lock, counting the turns. Set the steering wheel at the midpoint and remove the steering thrust screw lock nut and washer. Turn the adjusting screw so the roller just touches the worm. Replace the washer with the sharp edges down, replace the lock nut and tighten it. If the adjustments are correct, the pull to turn the wheel will be 2 - 2 1/2 lbs measured on a 9" radius.

Tom

This message was edited by TomO on 8-13-19 @ 7:55 AM

sarahcecelia
08-31-2019 @ 4:00 PM
Senior
Posts: 1147
Joined: Mar 2013
          


You can check the play by attaching a yard stick to the L/tire, aiming it so the far end is about 1/16th from the floor. Put a piece of masking tape on the floor at that end, and mark it's position with a pen or pencil-w/ the tire straight ahead; then by moving the steering wheel a little right, and a little left, you can see how it reacts to the movement of the steering wheel. Worked for me! If you have any play- Check the tie rod linkages, and idler ar

Regards, Steve Lee

This message was edited by sarahcecelia on 3-18-21 @ 10:20 AM

37RAGTOPMAN
09-02-2019 @ 11:37 AM
Senior
Posts: 1938
Joined: Oct 2009
          
hi
I think a repair manual would be of great help.
I think there are shims on the bottom of steering box, for up and down plan in worn gear.
grab the steering wheel and see if it will go up and down, I do not think there should be any play
if there is,
this would have to be done first before adjusting the play back and forth in the sector shaft [ end play ]
make sure the sector shaft bushing has no wobble , ] play ] and signs of grease leaking ?
refer to Lincoln work shop manual or MOTORS REPAIR MANUAL., that covers this operation,
hope this helps, 37Ragtopman

This message was edited by 37RAGTOPMAN on 9-2-19 @ 11:39 AM

sarahcecelia
10-26-2019 @ 8:05 AM
Senior
Posts: 1147
Joined: Mar 2013
          


This message was edited by sarahcecelia on 3-18-21 @ 10:17 AM

37RAGTOPMAN
11-19-2019 @ 11:01 AM
Senior
Posts: 1938
Joined: Oct 2009
          
HI Lightning
here is a photo out of my Original 36-48 Lincoln parts manual of the steering gear, it is the same from 1936 to 1948
showing it in exploded view,
hope this helps, 37 RAGTOPMAN
this parts manual is FOR SALE,

TomO
08-21-2020 @ 8:57 AM
Senior
Posts: 7234
Joined: Oct 2009
          
The instructions that I posted above are for a later Lincoln. I am sorry about posting the incorrect procedure.

The instructions for your Lincoln are:

Jack up the front of the car so there is no weight on the wheels.
Turn the steering wheel so that the wheels are straight ahead.
Loosen the sector shaft thrust screw lock nut
Turn the sector shaft thrust screw clockwise until it is snug.
Back off the screw 1/8 turn and tighten the lock nut.

Tom

sarahcecelia
01-23-2021 @ 11:37 AM
Senior
Posts: 1147
Joined: Mar 2013
          
For measuring steering wheel pull, I used a scale for weighing fish, with (2) pointers on it; one for the pull, and one that stayed where the max was. I made a fixture (insulated so it wouldn't mar the steering wheel) to hook the scale on and take my "pull"measurements.

Regards, Steve Lee

This message was edited by sarahcecelia on 3-18-21 @ 10:22 AM

sarahcecelia
03-18-2021 @ 10:06 AM
Senior
Posts: 1147
Joined: Mar 2013
          


This message was edited by sarahcecelia on 3-18-21 @ 10:24 AM

<< previous || next >> 


NOTE: YOU MUST BE A REGISTERED USER AND BE LOGGED IN TO POST (and reply to) messages in this forum. If you are a first time user, please click the CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT in the masthead above to register and Log In. After that, all you do is LOG IN to enjoy using this site.

DISCLAIMER: The V-8 Club does no independent testing of any of the opinions, thoughts or suggestions presented in the website on the Forum, in the Tech Tips section, or any section. A reader should consider the website to be a forum wherein differing solutions to a particular set of circumstances may be discussed. Ultimately, the selection of an item for an individual's vehicle must be based upon the independent study of the vehicle owner in consultation with people in the hobby and restoration experts.


EFV-8 Club Forum Home | Back to Home Page | Contact the Webmaster

Copyright © 2009 - EFV-8.org
Powered by < CF FORUM > v.2.1