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valuation of a 39 conv coupe project car
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DohcV8 |
05-06-2021 @ 12:23 AM
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I have a 39 convertible coupe project car. It runs and drives, but has no title. Has a later engine (59 A-B Heads). Believe it has an earlier tranny Is there anyone who can help me with a rough valuation of this car? Thanks, Jerry
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JayChicago |
05-06-2021 @ 7:40 AM
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No title? Pretty nice car to have come without a title. Looks like a stollen car to me. I wouldn’t touch it, for fear of one day a previous owner shows up with the police to confiscate his car. I think to have any hope of seeing reasonable value, you will have to go thru the difficult legal process of getting a replacement title from your state.
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wmsteed |
05-06-2021 @ 8:17 AM
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I guess I will be the first to throw my hat in the ring with a guesstimate of what the 39 is worth. I reviewed the attached pix and noted many things wrong with the car. The top don't look right, poorly fitting with very bad weather stripping at the A & B pillars. Many things in the engine compartment are wrong, the least of which is the engine color, an indication that the car was built to a budget. I would base my estimated value to be per the prices listed in the Collector Car Price Guide.. A # 5 is $8.400., a #4 is $14,000., averaging the numbers for high and low comes up with $11,200. The price of collector cars is quite low, and has been for some time, people that got sucked into the "good investment trap" are finding themselves in a money losing situation. A case in point, I recently purchased a '38 Buick Special 2dr sdn, a two owner car, the original owner, a women owned the car for over fifty years. The car is in perfect condition, original paint and interior in near new condition, all of the accessories worked, radio, heater, etc. The only issue was the brakes needed new wheel cylinders, as did the master cylinder. Per the PRICE GUIDE the car listed for: #4, $7,400.-- #3, $16,550. average low/high $11,975. I bought the car for $13,000.
Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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42wagon |
05-06-2021 @ 9:51 AM
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Why do you want to know what the car is worth. Buying it? Selling it? Or just curious? Without the title the car is worthless. You can't register it. You can't sell it legitimately. If you are buying it without a title how do you know it isn't stolen? Even with a title there are a lot of variables. What is the condition of the engine, drive train, brakes, etc. How about rust, collision damage. What is it missing to bring it into condition for fine point judging. In short it is difficult for us to value the car from just a couple of photos. But everything else is insignificant without a title.
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1931 Flamingo |
05-06-2021 @ 12:50 PM
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Without the title the car is worthless. You can't register it. You can't sell it legitimately. If you are buying it without a title how do y. Not all States require a title to register. Here in CT NO title is given depending on how old the car is. A Bill of Sale is all that's needed plus a Vin verification. It would matter which State the buyer is in. JMO Paul in CT
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DohcV8 |
05-06-2021 @ 2:35 PM
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My father bought the car in Canada around 1982 as a partial car, missing body panels, the interior, and drive train. He had the necessary paperwork to cross the border. My father built a car out of it and had a title. It was registered in Ohio for years. When I tried to register the car in Texas I found the frame didn’t match the title. It’s had several flatheads in it over the years, possibly the title matched one of those, but not this motor. I don’t know, and my father’s been gone for more than 20 yrs. I may just sell it as a parts car. Jerry
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TomO |
05-06-2021 @ 5:10 PM
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Check with the Texas DMV to see what they require to issue a title. If you don't have to do a lot of paperwork, get the title as it will mean a few thousand dollars in a sale. Not all car buyers are looking for a perfect car, there are quite a few that would like a car to drive and upgrade as they have the money. Things like a later model engine or incorrect radiator do not bother them and items that need repair add to joy of working on a car and improving it. With a title, the car could be a 4 or 4+, depending on how much the photo is hiding the defects.
Tom
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kubes40 |
05-06-2021 @ 5:55 PM
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I agree with TomO. The car as pictured is worth some decent money. The car should not be parted out. A title is nice and adds value to the car. However, not having a tile does not make the car "worthless".
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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Steve Kennedy |
05-06-2021 @ 7:52 PM
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You might post where you are. In Colorado, it is possible to have the State Highway Patrol inspect the chassis number, then one can apply for a title. There are a few more steps but it is probably state dependent.
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DohcV8 |
05-06-2021 @ 8:04 PM
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I live in Florida now. Sinvcecgge title doesn’t match the frame #, I can’t get a fl title.
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