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Posted By Discussion Topic: 1936 Greyhound Research -- page: 1 2 3 4     3w2 08-29-2020 @ 4:48 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 823 Joined: Oct 2009 The key words are "Ford authorized or released accessory", not "dealer installed accessory" when it comes to as-delivered authenticity. kubes40 08-29-2020 @ 12:12 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3374 Joined: Oct 2009 Columbia overdrive's were not considered to be original equipment for the fact that they were not original equipment. The fact that you bought your car from the original owner in 1952 doesn't hold a lot of "proof" that it's just like it left the dealer. The car was sixteen years old when you bought it and worth nearly nothing. A lot happened to that car just to keep it on the road in those first sixteen years. And, even if the original owner provided you a receipt from the original dealership to the first owner, does not mean everything installed is correct. We all know dealers loaded up the cars with whatever they could to make a profit. That has zero (necessarily) to do with what's correct. Mike "Kube" Kubarth wmsteed 08-29-2020 @ 11:17 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 606 Joined: Oct 2009 I know that the Columbia's were dealer installed and for many years were not considered to be original equipment by the EFV8 Club. As I stated in my earlier contribution to this thread, it is well documented that the majority of the accessories on the vehicles of the '30's/40's were dealer installed. I worked in a Ford Dealership in Eastern Idaho during the early '50's. The majority of the vehicles we processed in the new car prep area came in very plain, standard hood ornaments, steering wheels, hub caps, radio/heater, etc. Ford saved a lot of money in freight charges per vehicle, even to the point that the vehicles came in DRY, no oil, water, fuel. Hub caps were locked in the trunk. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe kubes40 08-28-2020 @ 11:38 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3374 Joined: Oct 2009 Hey Bill (wmsteed) , Your Columbia may have been installed by the dealer back in '36 but it was not an authorized accessory. Mike "Kube" Kubarth 3w2 08-28-2020 @ 9:54 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 823 Joined: Oct 2009 Cast bronze Greyhound radiator caps were standard equipment on classic era Lincolns starting in 1925, three years after Ford acquired the Company and remained standard equipment through the 1934 model year (a plain, so-called "driving" cap was available as a no-cost option). With the relocation of the radiator filler to beneath the hood starting with the 1935 models and the Greyhound became just a radiator sh*ll ornament until the end of the last of the "big" Lincolns in 1939. In all instances, the tail was free standing. With the '34 models, Ford offered a Stant-manufactured die cast zinc Greyhound radiator cap as an authorized accessory. Like the Lincoln caps and radiator ornaments, its tail was freestanding. Except for the Ford of Canada 1936 model exception, Ford did not offer a Greyhound cap or ornament as an authorized accessory during any other model year. As indicated above there were several makers of aftermarket caps and ornaments, none of whose caps were a Ford-authorized accessory and none had free-standing tails. If a customer wanted one, a Ford dealer would likely be happy to furnish an aftermarket product. In recent times, some other not-originally-offered-by-Ford versions such as Greyhound caps for '32s and '33s have been created. P.S. Your Columbia rear axle is another example of a non-Ford-authorized accessory either sold and installed by a Ford dealer or other seller/installer of the Columbia axles. therunwaybehind 08-28-2020 @ 8:44 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 180 Joined: May 2019 It's my understanding that the greyhound "hood ornament" was a Lincoln part. wmsteed 08-28-2020 @ 8:29 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 606 Joined: Oct 2009 My 36 Ford 5 window, manufactured late Aug '36 is a delux car that has just about every accessory in the book, including a Columbia and the tool box located over the right wheel well. The tool box is reputedly a rumble seat option. An anomaly on my car is the "Aug 36" spare tire cover, reputedly a Standard tire cover, in lieu of the common '36 tire cover. I am the second owner of the car, have owned it since Sept 52. the odometer had 51.k and change when I bought the car. With all of the accessories on my '36, one could assume that the original owner of the car went nuts buying everything in the book, however, he did not opt for a greyhound. I believe that it has been well documented that the majority of the accessories installed on new cars during the '30's/40's were dealer installed. Bill 36 5 win delx cpe Kens 36 08-28-2020 @ 8:15 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 340 Joined: Oct 2009 OK, Mike, I’ll bite. I’m not an expert like Don and David and our late friend John Swanberg, but I’ve read quite a bit on this subject. Jon, being that your ’36 is an Ohio car, your greyhound is almost certainly an aftermarket item. Whether it was sold by the dealer at the time of purchase cannot be known in the absence of documentation of the sale, but it was not a Ford-authorized accessory. There were a number of after-market manufacturers back “in the day.” While Ford in the U.S. did not offer such an accessory, Ford of Canada did, as has been well documented by Don Rogers. Don has further stated that Ford of Canada supplied the accessory greyhound on all DeLuxe ’36 Fords when they introduced the wood-grained dash in mid-1936. There is a long-standing belief that an “original” greyhound can be distinguished from aftermarket by the presence of a free-standing tail. In fact, the ’36 brochure from Ford of Canada appears to show the tail attached to the rear leg. Ken kubes40 08-28-2020 @ 5:21 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3374 Joined: Oct 2009 Jon, I'm eager to see the replies the '36 expert(s) weigh in with. Lord knows I've a lot to learn about '36 Fords and learn I will with their help. I had understood that domestic '36 Fords did not offer a Greyhound ornament. Yes? No? I do know that accessories offered at dealers were not necessarily Ford authorized. I wonder if that's the case here. C'mon experts... tell me please Mike "Kube" Kubarth Ketronj281989 08-28-2020 @ 4:52 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 143 Joined: Jul 2020 Last two photos, thanks. Jon Ketron 1936 Ford V8 Deluxe Tudor Touring Sedan

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