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kubes40

08-28-2020 @ 11:38 AM

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Hey Bill (wmsteed) , Your Columbia may have been installed by the dealer back in '36 but it was not an authorized accessory.

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08-29-2020 @ 11:17 AM

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I know that the Columbia's were dealer installed and for many years were not considered to be original equipment by the EFV8 Club.
As I stated in my earlier contribution to this thread, it is well documented that the majority of the accessories on the vehicles of the '30's/40's were dealer installed.
I worked in a Ford Dealership in Eastern Idaho during the early '50's. The majority of the vehicles we processed in the new car prep area came in very plain, standard hood ornaments, steering wheels, hub caps, radio/heater, etc. Ford saved a lot of money in freight charges per vehicle, even to the point that the vehicles came in DRY, no oil, water, fuel. Hub caps were locked in the trunk.

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08-29-2020 @ 12:12 PM

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Columbia overdrive's were not considered to be original equipment for the fact that they were not original equipment.
The fact that you bought your car from the original owner in 1952 doesn't hold a lot of "proof" that it's just like it left the dealer. The car was sixteen years old when you bought it and worth nearly nothing. A lot happened to that car just to keep it on the road in those first sixteen years.
And, even if the original owner provided you a receipt from the original dealership to the first owner, does not mean everything installed is correct.
We all know dealers loaded up the cars with whatever they could to make a profit. That has zero (necessarily) to do with what's correct.

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08-29-2020 @ 4:48 PM

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The key words are "Ford authorized or released accessory", not "dealer installed accessory" when it comes to as-delivered authenticity.

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08-29-2020 @ 6:02 PM

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I appreciate all the responses guys. Many thanks; and thanks for the corrections on the greyhound, still new and learning a lot so far.

So we know this greyhound is an "non-Ford authorized domestic accessory" since this was a domestic car (thank you for this clarification). Although, perhaps a possibility that a Ford dealer provided this aftermarket greyhound back in 1936 upon customer purchase of this car brand new if requested by the customer (or dealer promotion). Is there any way to tell what year this aftermarket greyhound was manufactured??? "F 36" resides casted into the metal underneath the ornament attachment area if this provides any clues. I would really like to discover if this is a genuine 1930's era manufactured aftermarket part for 1936 or something made "later" after the 1930's time period. The fit and finish mount over the "V8" on the previous pictures shows a rather interesting fit over the "8". The metal arched edge is not a perfect fit siting behind the "8".

If this is a period aftermarket part that we know was produced in the 1930's (1936) I will leave it on the car. If its a re-pro made after WWII, I will likely take it off the car. The only thing that has me scratching my head is the patina of the greyhound (prior to polishing) matched that of the original grille and surrounding original metal areas (this car has never been restored cosmetically/mechanically). I would think if a greyhound was added later the patina would not match the rest of the original metal patina on the car. Just a thought.

Please let me know your thoughts, would like to close out this head scratcher!

Jon Ketron
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08-30-2020 @ 8:09 PM

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Bill, so as not to hijack this thread, in a separate thread, please post a picture of your '36 5W with Rumble Seat TOOL BOX. I think I have replicated it, but would appreciate seeing an original.
Steve

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08-30-2020 @ 8:58 PM

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Jon, Most of these after market dogs were produced during the 35-36 model years. Ads for these dogs appeared in Ford Dealer and Service News during that time period. Ford Dealer and Service Field was a non Ford authorized publication sent to Ford dealers advertising a multitude of after market items for Ford cars and trucks.

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08-30-2020 @ 9:02 PM

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Un-offical early greyhound prototype......LOL!!!

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08-31-2020 @ 10:21 AM

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Thank's for that last post Don, we all need something to smile or laugh about these days. I have a friend with a 36 who is very particular about accessories on his car being authentic and Ford approved, but installed a greyhound anyway,
because he is a veterinarian.
Frank

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08-31-2020 @ 6:30 PM

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In a separate thread, please post a picture of your 1936 wooden tool box that goes inside the rumble seat area over the right rear fender.
Steve in Denver

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