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50CaPU

04-01-2020 @ 5:23 PM

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I will be removing hydraulics to put original brakes back on. Looking for information on initial setup for 1935 (passenger) Ford mechanical brakes. I have done a few Model As so I understand the basics. Everything will be rebuilt to factory specs. (still looking for drums out west)
Looking for specific info related to setting up brake rod length, optimum lever position etc for the 35’.
Thanks y'all.

CharlieStephens

04-01-2020 @ 5:54 PM

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Be sure I have all of the parts before you take the hydraulic brakes off if they are working. People frequently do horrible things when they mount the master cylinder. Out of curiosity, why are you going back to the mechanical brakes?

You should put your general location and email in your profile, you can never tell when it will pay off.

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04-01-2020 @ 10:03 PM

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I would like to steer away from debating the merits. I understand the mechanics and would like to be educated regarding the set up.
Thanks for the tip, i have updated my info.

Tim
Downtown, Ca

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04-02-2020 @ 12:35 AM

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I wasn't trying to get into a debate on the merits but rather to make sure that you didn't have a simple problem with the hydraulic brakes that could be fixed with a lot less work than changing to mechanical brakes. Many times in the past the conversion did so much damage that it is difficult to go back. Best of luck with you project.

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04-02-2020 @ 5:37 AM

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The Ford service bulletins have the procedure, search here or fordbarn.com and you may find them posted.

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04-02-2020 @ 6:06 AM

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Thanks Charlie.
If i came across like the south end of a horse please accept my apology . .
I appreciate the interest.

Tim
Downtown, Ca

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04-02-2020 @ 6:31 AM

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Thanks for the tip on Service Bulletins, they are definitely a staple on the Model A side of the garage.
I have a reprint set on its way.

Tim
Downtown, Ca

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04-02-2020 @ 8:34 AM

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You may want to contact Richard Lacy, Early V-8 Garage, West Covina, CA (626) 338-2282. He is an expert on Hydraulic brake conversions from mechanical. He may have some used stock mechanical brake parts that may fit your needs.

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04-02-2020 @ 9:40 AM

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Most people got away from mechanical brakes because a cable froze from corrosion in an area where a lot off salt was used on the roads in Winter. My personal avoidance was dictated by the severance of the mechanical hand brake in the passenger compartment at the point where it met the turnbuckle that connected to the cane. For brake rods I see on page 47 of my Service Bulletin book for 1938-40 including 1932-37 revisions this text OPR 2000-D 1) Expand shoes as explained in OPR 2000-E {Expand shoes 2000-E Run in adjusting screw until shoes are tight on all four wheels. Brakes must be cold when this is done. When brakes are hot their diameter is greater and when they cool off the brakes may drag. If rods or cables are to be adjusted at this time. Then back off the adjusting screws until drag is removed} 2) Adjust cross shaft as outlined under Opr.2458A which is on page 91 page 92 says when it is correct for 1935-36 page 67 and 68 have specifics of the CAR 1935 Brakes as a print of PAGE NO 57 in the original book. it has the illustrations you probably want. I think this is the data you are seeking and it seems to be complete once you have the book.

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50Capu/Tim, I might be able to provide some guidance for you on restoring the mechanical brakes on your '35 Tudor sedan. I am also familiar with your car, as I am friends with the previous owner. Would probably work best if we communicate details on this by private email, and not use this website.
I also prefer keeping mechanical brakes on my '35 Ford's instead of converting to Ford's '39 to '48 type hydraulic brakes. I feel that I have my mechanical brakes working as well as the hydraulic brakes on any original '39 to '48 Ford I have ever driven. Now for those who have converted their '39 to '48 Ford/Merc vehicles to Lincoln or disc type brakes, that would be a different story, since they would be superior to mechanicals or the early Ford/Merc hydraulics, imo.
I am also getting ready to convert a '35 coupe from hydraulics back to mechanicals, because the hydraulic conversion was done so poorly, that I would have to completely remove, and replace this entire hydraulic conversion anyway, because it's the sloppiest work I have ever seen, hands down!!

PS...send me your email addy using the pm system here or post your email address on this thread and I'll contact you.

John

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