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fenbach

01-11-2019 @ 7:45 PM

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i have a '37 engine and discovered that the hole in the pan for the starter is considerably smaller than the one in my '36 pan. the starter from my '36 engine has a flange the size of the larger hole and obviously won't fit snug against the pan on the '37 engine. the long mounting bolts do line up, though.
did '37s have a different starter? or could the pan be from a different year engine? and could I just grind the flange off the starter backing plate i have so that it will fit snug against the pan??
the '36 pan is unusable, by the way. as is the engine. threw a rod. i'm "upgrading."
thanks.

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01-11-2019 @ 7:55 PM

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A picture would be useful of the starter and the pan. The starter should be the same. Get the full story before you start grinding.

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01-12-2019 @ 7:00 AM

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The hole in the oil pan for the starter should be 3.00" Diameter. 37 did not have a different starter 32-41 are all the same diameter. the early starter has a thick plate at the oil pan end about 1" thick after the war the plate became much thinner about 1/2" thick.

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01-12-2019 @ 3:02 PM

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Pic of hole in pan. Diameter barely 2.5”.

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01-12-2019 @ 3:04 PM

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Pic of starter

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01-12-2019 @ 4:47 PM

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I'm stumped, but it's pretty obvious that that starter does not fit that pan.

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01-13-2019 @ 3:28 AM

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Okay from the pictures we know that the pan and the starter don't fit together. So now the questions.

1. Hopefully you live near other Ford folks who have pans or starters you can compare to yours.

2. Since you are replacing the engine will your 36 pan fit on the new engine?

3. Does the pan on the new engine fit correctly or was it modified in some way to fit?

4. Perhaps someone at Vanpelt Sales can tell you what you are looking at.

My suspicion is that you have a 49 or later oil pan and there once was a starter with a smaller flange that went with it.

Let us know what you find out. This is an interesting question.

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01-13-2019 @ 7:35 AM

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That hole for the starter does not look round. It looks like somebody added a handmade plate to the pan for the starter. It's a JDLR(just don't look right) situation.

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01-13-2019 @ 7:51 AM

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I agree with Tom. It just doesn't look right and if you started grinding to open the hole, you may not get it in the correct position to keep the starter in alignment with the flywheel.

I would look for another oil pan or use the one from the 1936 engine.

Tom

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01-16-2019 @ 5:47 PM

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Well, I went out and checked my 1937 85hp, the big engine, oil pan and the starter flange is 3" I.D. You might feel around inside, behind the plate, for the original diameter.

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