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EFV-8 Club Forum / 1940 Ford Discussion / fan shroud

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o2bnkc
06-07-2021 @ 9:19 PM
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I'm not sure. I just bought this thing a couple of months ago. I gueess it could be in better shape, since it's not doing a very good job of keeping the water cool.

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o2bnkc
06-07-2021 @ 9:20 PM
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I think those are missing, also.

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RAK402
06-07-2021 @ 9:58 PM
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I have fought temperature/heat problems for years in my Fordor Sedan...Some of it was actual, some of it was perceived.

1) I had modern/repro temperature probes in the heads (due to this forum, I now know that there should only be one and it should be in the left/driver's side head). When running two, one is supposed to go open when the temp gets to high (approximately 212 degrees-telling the gauge to read full hot), the other is supposed to have a bimetal strip with contacts that open and close due to a combination of heat and current running through them (this is the one that sends the temperature information to the gauge). The modern ones that are supposed to open when the coolant boils have a solid state device (thermistor) that goes open at 175 degrees (I took one apart and looked up the component to see what the temperature rating was). This is somewhat less than enchanting as when it goes opens at 175 degrees the gauge goes all the way to HOT and you think you are overheating when you aren't. Measuring the temperature in the top of the radiator proved that it was not overheating. A kind soul took pity on my and sold me a pair of NOS temperature probes, so that issue is resolved.
2) The thermostats creep up in the hoses and bind, so they don't work properly. Securing them so that they cannot escape from their proper location and crawl up into the hoses helped a great deal.
3) I did replace the radiator with a new/repro one-partially because I didn't really trust the original one from a heat standpoint, partially because it was sooooo ugly.
4) I also changed the water pumps to the modern, high volume ones. I am not sure how much good this did (there is a lot of debate on this), but it certainly didn't hurt anything.

Identifying and correcting these issues resolved my cooling problems.

As a side note, I have had an electric fan mounted to the front of the radiator for years-it never helped a lot, and with the other changes (above) I haven't had to use it recently.

This message was edited by RAK402 on 6-7-21 @ 10:05 PM

o2bnkc
06-08-2021 @ 5:42 PM
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Thanks RAK402. Some helpful info there. I was thinking about getting an electric fan. I know it is running hot because I can smell coolant sometimes.

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o2bnkc
06-08-2021 @ 5:43 PM
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Thanks for everybody's input. There's a lot I need to learn about these engines.

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1931 Flamingo
06-09-2021 @ 7:33 AM
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Again: What condition is your radiator in?? Do you have a Digital temp gun (Harbor Freight)??
There should be about a 30* difference between the coolant at the top of the radiator and the bottom of the radiator. JMO
Paul in CT

sarahcecelia
06-10-2021 @ 8:52 AM
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My '40 convertible is competely stock and NEVER OVERHEATS!!, even in the summer here in Florida when it is 99 degrees out. If yours does there is a problem somewhere.- Pure anti freeze(not 50/50), dirty radiator and entire cooling system, retarded timing,bad thermostats; and the list goes on and on! Ford motor company "NEVER MADE AN AUTOMOBILE THAT HAD AN OVERHEATING PROBLEM," if they did people would be going back to the dealers in DROVES!! ; and that never happened- I was 18 in 1955, and the owner of Downs Ford was Bill Downs, my Sunday School teacher, and a famly friend, and I surely would have known about it! My Crestliner also NEVER OVERHEATS! Almost everybody I meet, almost always seems to mention that these cars are noted for overheating. "How come mine don't??" Simple answer is:" I know how to set them up!"(TO FACTORY SPECS!!) If you want me to tell you how, just reply to this thread, and ask me.I tell you step by step, what to do.

Regards, Steve Lee

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