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MG |
04-18-2011 @ 12:01 PM
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I'm replacing the aluminum Body ID Plate on the firewall of my '37. Can someone out there refer me to a quality set of stamps and of the correct size for this purpose?
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37RAGTOPMAN |
04-18-2011 @ 4:25 PM
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MG if you have the old plate with the numbers take it to a trophy shop and see if they can engrave it for you. hope this helps. 37 RAGTOPMAN
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supereal |
04-18-2011 @ 5:19 PM
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I'm not sure how we got off on fake titles and body plates, etc. I believe that most, if not all, serious old car hobbists subscribe to the desire to retain as much of the authentic character of their vehicles as possible. Perhaps the most vivid example is the interest in "Rouge" examples which, being in less than pristine condition, reflect the true original character and construction. Anything less is simply substituting reproduction parts for the "real" thing. Too much "restoration" eventually erases the connection with the origin of the vehicle. Hence, the deduction of judging points for "over restoration".
This message was edited by supereal on 4-18-11 @ 5:20 PM
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MG |
04-18-2011 @ 11:41 PM
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37RAGTOPMAN, Good idea. I don't have the old plate though. I have a repo ID plate which is blank where the numbers are suppose to be 78-_______ I do know what the number is that is supposed to be stamped there. I'm wondering if Ford used a certain style/script and what size they used when they stamped these plates. I figure, better the correct plate with numbers stamped on it than two empty holes in the firewall where the plate should be. This, even though some people consider this to be "fake" or "over restoration".
This message was edited by MG on 4-19-11 @ 12:02 AM
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37RAGTOPMAN |
04-19-2011 @ 5:51 AM
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MG I would go to a trophy shop and look at what they have to offer, FORD did nothing fancy, something along the 78------ the rest of the numbers should be your VIN number,would be a good way to go I would think,just a simple font,you have to remember that even if you were to go for judging,the judges probably wouldn't even notice it, the rest of the numbers should be your VIN number, I stand corrected on the number should be the body number,and not the VIN number, its been a few years since I restored my 37 CAB sorry for the mistake... thanks for the correction,,, but if PLATE was missing then they might deduct ? hope you drive and enjoy you old FORD. and not let it sitting in the garage my 3 cents 37RAGTOPMAN
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42ford |
04-19-2011 @ 6:39 AM
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I am not sure if 37 used the star. Where it is used, it is important
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42wagon |
04-19-2011 @ 6:48 AM
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MG I could be wrong on this but I believe the plate on your firewall was a body number plate. It may have been a generic number that referred to the type of body or a sequential number for the body as produced. However from what I have been given to understand it has nothing to do with the so called "vin" number for the car. That is a sequential number starting with *18- and was stamped on the transmission at the Rouge engine plant and transferred to the left frame rail at the assembly plant. Ted
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04-19-2011 @ 7:33 AM
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You're not wrong -- the Patent Plate on the engine firewall was the model year 78 followed by the body style number (example 770 would be for Coupe - 5 window)
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nelsb01 |
04-19-2011 @ 7:37 AM
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Sorry -- my post should have said the Body ID plate that is mounted above the Patent Plate on the firewall.
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CharlieStephens |
04-19-2011 @ 8:59 AM
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MG, I don't think very many responders read your question. The numbers on the tag are raised as if stamped from the back on my '37 coupe. There are three lines of data all with different size stamps. You would spend a lot of money on stamps. The stamp would have to be the reverse of a normal stamp. I have never seen or heard of them being available. Your best bet might be to look for someone that restores tags as a business (post if you find anything).My thought is that you would be better off with an old tag and restoring it. It appears (although my tag is old) that everything is stamped and there was no other information on the tag. Try an ad on HAMB as those guys always remove the tags to fill and smooth out the firewall. I expected to find a photo in the '37 book but could not. Mine is old and tired and would not photograph well. Charlie Stephens
This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 4-19-11 @ 9:01 AM
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