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51woodie

04-23-2019 @ 10:04 AM

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46Coupe. My '46 Super Deluxe Coupe has a higher S/N than yours, by a couple hundred thousand. Mine was built in late '46, which gives it a mix between '46 and '47. It has the horns in front of the rad instead of the trumpets, and the fuel pump has a glass sediment/filter bowl. The ignition resistor is up under the dash. I guess Ford was starting the transition to the '47 model year. None of my glass have bugs, so that info is not available to me.

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04-23-2019 @ 1:16 PM

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Your title should have the same number as your frame. If you have the original transmission that frame # should also be on the cast boss just above the small clutch inspection cover. No window bugs means the glass has been changed in the car. Do you see any stamped numbers on the firewall?

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04-24-2019 @ 9:50 AM

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The only number I can find on the firewall while facing the drivers side is L 980. The data plate on the firewall is a Carpenter repro. No other stampings were found . However, I can't see behind the engine to check there.
51 Woodie: I'm not surprised that your number is a lot higher than mine as I believe that my car was built sometime in 1945 as it has several features that were listed in a V8 article about a 1944-45 staff car. Henry was known not to waste anything including parts left over from 1942 -45 production as stated in several articles I've read in the times. My car has the trumpet horns, round knob hood release, clutch grease fittings, etc as were used on the earlier cars.
I'm having as much fun researching this car as driving it, especially when I play 40s music.

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04-24-2019 @ 12:07 PM

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Let me begin by saying how much I appreciate everyone's help and that I'm not usually lacking in detail research. However,
I had some time to kill since this morning's post and went back to check my frame. I was very troubled with what I thought I had discovered in the mismatched numbers. So I took a different style brush and begin working on the one number that wasn't coming out clearly. I FOUND the line that is the rest of the 3 in the 379 section of the number. It was so faint that I missed it initially and mistook a scratch for the top of a 5. Whoever hand stamped this wasn't too consistent. Anyway I hope I haven't wasted too much of your all's time. Moving forward now that I know the numbers match, how can I get to the month and year of manufacture? Obviously, I'm a little excited about this. I get that way when researching other antiques also, which is surprising since I'm older now.

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04-24-2019 @ 1:02 PM

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Did you check the club's book for your car? https://shop.efv8.org/collections/ford-books/products/1941-1948-ford-book-softbound I don't have one that covers '46 or I would just give you the information.

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04-24-2019 @ 1:25 PM

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I second Charlie's comment about the V-8 Club's '41-'48 book. if you are a new owner of a '46 Ford the book is a must have to continue your research. you can purchase to book by going to the "Online Store" in the left column of this website.

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04-24-2019 @ 2:01 PM

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I second the recommendation that you get the 41-48 Ford book. Appendix D lists the running changes by year. You can compare your car to the list of changes authorized by Big Brother in Dearborn. Unfortunately this will only tell you that your car could not have been assembled before a certain date. Ford did not keep or they got lost along the way the daily production figures for each assembly plant. Also this list only tells you when a change was authorized. It is perfectly possible that certain assembly plants did not have the parts on hand to make the change until sometime later than the authorization date.

Happy hunting. Let us know what you find.

46coupe

04-24-2019 @ 4:23 PM

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I had gone to appendix D, but didn't find too much. My car is Navy Blue. No mention of interior other than adding brown upholstery to what was being used at the time. The oil bath air cleaner and filter were added, which I have. This happened Aug 9 of 45. In Sept they changed the paint on the grill bars to match the body color. My grill bars and related parts are painted an orangey red color which goes with the Ford word on the bumper. What do you all think? Was the car built somewhere around July/Aug of 45 given the early frame number and early items that were installed on the first run of production cars? Or am I being over zealous? Are there any other references I can check that you all know about? I understand about running changes and long time lapses which means this could be for naught. The hunt is fun though, agreed?

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04-26-2019 @ 7:31 AM

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Does anyone know anything about the paint trim in the grills, and other trim pieces? The change was made to paint the parts with the same body color. What was the color prior to the change order? Any help is appreciated.

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04-26-2019 @ 8:31 AM

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If you are intent on finding out all the facts about your early '46 you need to contact the Benson Ford Research Center. They are located in Dearborn, Michigan. They do charge for their services.

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