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gmcbuffalo |
08-03-2018 @ 9:14 PM
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What are restorers using to replace the Tar like cardboard that covers the floors and back of seats and even around the cab? Restoring a 1935 Ford coupe.
Greg Meiling 1935 3 Window Coupe
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kubes40 |
08-04-2018 @ 5:29 AM
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Greg, While I can't speak for folks restoring '35 Fords, I can tell you that same paper is found in '39 and '40 Fords on a limited basis. Very thick tar paper is available at specialty roofing supply companies. You are unlikely to find it at your local box store. It is fairly inexpensive but you must buy a roll. If I recall correctly, a 100'x 3' roll was around $45.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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ford38v8 |
08-04-2018 @ 9:03 AM
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Kube is correct, and the material he refers to is 30 lb felt. Most roofers use 15 lb felt, but that is too thin for your needs. All roofing material supply houses will have both.
Alan
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08-04-2018 @ 10:12 AM
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When I read your question the name Bob Drake pops into my mind, you might want to give them a call along with the other suppliers. Charlie Stephens
This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 8-4-18 @ 11:05 AM
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kubes40 |
08-05-2018 @ 8:52 AM
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Drake sells the waffle pattern stuff. It's a nice offering but not what the original poster desires. The material he desires is flat. That is - no pattern whatsoever.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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wmsteed |
08-05-2018 @ 1:40 PM
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I would advise against using roofing felt/tar paper and any other building material type of product in an automobile. All of these products are designed as a vapor barrier and/or waterproof membrane. Inside of a vehicle wherein very high tempts can and will occur, the paper will emit a tar/asphalt odor that will be very unpleasant. Stay with products that are designed for the interior of a vehicle.
Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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kubes40 |
08-05-2018 @ 1:42 PM
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Bill, I have never encountered any adverse issues with tar paper. I am just now completing my sixteenth restoration and still, no issues.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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wmsteed |
08-07-2018 @ 10:29 AM
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My auto experience is not limited to Ford built vehicles. I have several GM vehicles and a few DCPD vehicles plus a couple brand X's. I am a member of several car clubs, Buick, Chevy, Olds and Plymouth and as such I am party to many online car forums. I have read many articles containing information about the use of asphalt based products in vehicles and/or dwellings. About the only place that tar paper/roofing felt is now used is on roofs, where the asphalt odor can breath out. Many years ago tar paper was very common as a vapor barrier on exterior walls behind brick and/or wood, the norm is now a plastic like product. I know that old habits die hard and that many people like to avoid change, which brings to mind a famous saying by Henry Ford, " He stated that if he would have asked people what they wanted, they would have replied, faster horses". Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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kubes40 |
08-07-2018 @ 11:04 AM
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Bill, While I can't argue with your logic, I tried to keep in mind first and foremost the original poster's question. "What are restorers using...". The key word here being "restorers". Building a modified car allows for materials that differed from the authentic. Restoring a vehicle does not allow that same "luxury". I have restored numerous high point cars and never once did the relatively small amount of paper utilized cause any ill effects.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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wmsteed |
08-08-2018 @ 8:31 AM
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The key word in the original question was "restorers".. The man did not clarify his statement to say that he was building a high point show car or an every day driver. My contribution was to alert him to the possibility that he might use a product that was not to the best of his interests if the vehicle in question was going to be used for daily driving. Of course if the vehicle is an open car, then an asphalt based product could vent out, where-as it might not in a closed car. I am a certified construction expert with over fifty years experience in the industry. During the past twenty years I have seen several newer buildings that had to be demo-ed because asphalt based products had been used in the walls and floors. The people that had specified and/or used the asphalt based products were not up on their modern skills... Old School Thinking. Been doing this for forty years.. I also have read several articles about modern vehicle sound deadening materials that state "no asphalt bleeding/migration"...
Bill 36 5 win delx cpe
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