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Double D

11-05-2009 @ 3:45 AM

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I would like to know what determined the type of ash tray was installed. I've seen both - push in & up or pull down - types in the standard and deluxe

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11-05-2009 @ 7:28 AM

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Early production was the push up style. Later production was the tip out style. I'm not exactly sure when the change took place during the production year.

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11-05-2009 @ 7:38 AM

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The change took place very late (December) in 1939 and in to the very early (January)part of 1940.

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11-11-2009 @ 8:30 AM

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I have a 40 wagon that has glass bug dates of 3/40 and it has the early style ash trays--guess since the body was assembled at Iron Mountain there might have been quite a long delay in assembly

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11-11-2009 @ 3:59 PM

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Alan, I believe that Iron Mountain may be the fly in the ointment for many
of the early/late questions and observations, due to its relatively remote
location and its exclusive manufacture of wood bodies. I would imagine
that its assembly line bore little resemblance to any other of Ford's
assembly lines.

Alan

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11-12-2009 @ 11:08 AM

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I have a "one family" 38 SW, and the original glass
bugs would indicate a Nov 37 "glass date". The car was
special ordered with a Columbia, final assembly took
place in Long Beach, and it is painted Desert Tan. I
was always under the impression that the bodies came
shipped "flat" in dedicated metal shipping containers
from Iron Mountain, and were then "erected" at the
regional assembly plant. I have no idea where this
idea came from, but it might have been an article years
ago in Woodie Times.

At any rate, I would imagine that there was a
substantial delay between the glass leaving River
Rouge, being installed in the wood sub-assemblies, way
up in Northern Michigan, and finally a trip by rail to
Long Beach.

Glass bug dates therefore may only be useful for a car
that rolled out the door at Rouge. What do you experts
think?
final assembly

ford38v8

11-12-2009 @ 1:29 PM

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Stroker, Let me first set you straight on this point: An "Expert" is
someone who thinks he has all the answers. I don't know of any
experts
on this forum.

Now, to address your other points in a somewhat random fashion, the
Rouge, I believe, sent subassemblies to Dearborn for final assembly.
I'm
not sure if any cars rolled out of the Rouge.

Your color is Desert Sand.

After final assembly, cars were sent to the Columbia Factory for
modifications. Columbia differentials were not installed by Ford
Motors.

I can't address the issue of how the wood bodies were shipped, except
that I believe that all methods of transport were used, including rail
and
ship.

The dates on glass bugs are generally as valid in one assembly plant as
another, due to the method used to manufacture the glass: A run of
exclusively windshields would be made, followed by a run of another
pattern, and so on. Therefore, you'll not find all glass on a vehicle with
the same date. Shipments to the outlying plants may have been done
in
a similar fashion, so plants on both coasts could theoretically have
glass inventories of the same date of manufacture. It is generally
agreed, however, that the closer a plant was to the Rouge, the less
lead
time required for assembly.

Alan

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