| Double D | -- 11-05-2009 @ 3:45 AM |
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I would like to know what determined the type of ash tray was installed. I've seen both - push in & up or pull down - types in the standard and deluxe
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| trjford8 | -- 11-05-2009 @ 7:28 AM |
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Early production was the push up style. Later production was the tip out style. I'm not exactly sure when the change took place during the production year.
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| kubes40 | -- 11-05-2009 @ 7:38 AM |
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The change took place very late (December) in 1939 and in to the very early (January)part of 1940.
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| alanwoodieman | -- 11-11-2009 @ 8:30 AM |
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I have a 40 wagon that has glass bug dates of 3/40 and it has the early style ash trays--guess since the body was assembled at Iron Mountain there might have been quite a long delay in assembly
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| ford38v8 | -- 11-11-2009 @ 3:59 PM |
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Alan, I believe that Iron Mountain may be the fly in the ointment for many of the early/late questions and observations, due to its relatively remote location and its exclusive manufacture of wood bodies. I would imagine that its assembly line bore little resemblance to any other of Ford's assembly lines. Alan
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| Stroker | -- 11-12-2009 @ 11:08 AM |
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I have a "one family" 38 SW, and the original glass bugs would indicate a Nov 37 "glass date". The car was special ordered with a Columbia, final assembly took place in Long Beach, and it is painted Desert Tan. I was always under the impression that the bodies came shipped "flat" in dedicated metal shipping containers from Iron Mountain, and were then "erected" at the regional assembly plant. I have no idea where this idea came from, but it might have been an article years ago in Woodie Times. At any rate, I would imagine that there was a substantial delay between the glass leaving River Rouge, being installed in the wood sub-assemblies, way up in Northern Michigan, and finally a trip by rail to Long Beach. Glass bug dates therefore may only be useful for a car that rolled out the door at Rouge. What do you experts think? final assembly
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| ford38v8 | -- 11-12-2009 @ 1:29 PM |
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Stroker, Let me first set you straight on this point: An "Expert" is someone who thinks he has all the answers. I don't know of any experts on this forum. Now, to address your other points in a somewhat random fashion, the Rouge, I believe, sent subassemblies to Dearborn for final assembly. I'm not sure if any cars rolled out of the Rouge. Your color is Desert Sand. After final assembly, cars were sent to the Columbia Factory for modifications. Columbia differentials were not installed by Ford Motors. I can't address the issue of how the wood bodies were shipped, except that I believe that all methods of transport were used, including rail and ship. The dates on glass bugs are generally as valid in one assembly plant as another, due to the method used to manufacture the glass: A run of exclusively windshields would be made, followed by a run of another pattern, and so on. Therefore, you'll not find all glass on a vehicle with the same date. Shipments to the outlying plants may have been done in a similar fashion, so plants on both coasts could theoretically have glass inventories of the same date of manufacture. It is generally agreed, however, that the closer a plant was to the Rouge, the less lead time required for assembly. Alan This message was edited by ford38v8 on 11-12-09 @ 1:30 PM
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