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Posted By Discussion Topic: Mike orig. 40 picture -- page: 1 2     thunder road 10-10-2017 @ 1:39 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Mike this is a picture of Mr. Norman R. Runk's original 1940 Ford Coupe. This number was spray painted on the drivers side division board in the trunk. This car is 100 percent original except for the rear fenders recently being repainted once. On my early 1940 deluxe coupe it seems to me that they cut both pieces of the Masonite board at the same time, and then flipped one over for the opposite side. The Masonite board has a different texture on both sides. Tomorrow I want to flip up the seat and see if I have the number on the inside. Domenic This message was edited by thunder road on 10-10-17 @ 1:49 PM kubes40 10-10-2017 @ 4:31 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Domenic, Odds are you are unlikely to find those numbers on your car. The numbers were stenciled upon the top piece of a stack of panels for inventory control purposes. Once on the assembly line and that top piece installed to a coupe, the remainder of the stack would have no such number. I find it interesting that the car you'd photographed has the part number suffix of 01A. Those panels were identical to 1939 and carried a prefix of 91A. There was no change to the part according to the drawings. There is no listing of that part with an 01A prefix that I was able to find. Mike "Kube" Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 10-10-17 @ 4:39 PM thunder road 10-10-2017 @ 6:13 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Mike you must have this stuff running thru your veins to know all that! I think about cars a lot too and when I learn something new it still makes my day. On my car a 44,500 mile original 1940 ford deluxe coupe with one re-paint in 1964 , the interior is all original, even the rear shelf, all of this is still good, the inner quarter panel press boards the saturated felt in the rear tail, and the firewall pad are mint. When I looked into the storage behind the seat it looks like they cut both division boards at the same time because one has the grain flipped. Maybe they cut many at the same time? Do you have any knowledge on this . They are definitely original and still have all the correct slot screws with black upholstery washers. Thanks Domenic Domenic ronford 10-10-2017 @ 7:58 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 7 Joined: Oct 2009 Mike In thunder road's photo, the Jack Tag is attached to the trunk hinge arm. Is this the original factory location? I recently purchased an original 40 Deluxe that had the Jack Tag in this same location. Also, I think I remember a photo in the current V8 Club 40 Book that shows the Jack Tag attached to the trunk hinge arm. Is there a preferred way to display the Jack Tag? ,Ron Phillips thunder road 10-10-2017 @ 8:35 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Here's a picture of the whole trunk of that same car. Note the original burlap bag that the tool kit came in . I also have this burlap bag that came with my cars tool kit. This car also has an accessory tire lock on the special spare nut that comes with the bevel provision for the lock. The main spare tire mount arms in my car go outward to the wheel wells, and the trunk inner structure has a big square cutout like on the 39 trunk, this is because I have an early 40. Lastly the spare tire jacking instructions came wire tied to the original jack which still retains it original green paint and looks like it was never used . Domenic Domenic This message was edited by thunder road on 10-10-17 @ 8:52 PM ronford 10-11-2017 @ 11:51 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 7 Joined: Oct 2009 Domenic Great photo of the trunk. I noticed that it has both style lug wrenches -with extension and without extension. I also have a 40 Deluxe Coupe with 39 style inner structure trunk lid. The glass on this car is dated 11/39 and 12/39. Thanks for posting the photo. Ron Phillips kubes40 10-11-2017 @ 12:55 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Ronford, The lug wrench with engine turning crank extension were dealer optional (service pieces) for 1940 production vehicles. Thus, a person could have had both in the tool kit if he or she so desired and paid the additional cost. To be clear, ONLY a lug wrench was supplied with the other hand tools in the "standard" tool kit. Mike "Kube" Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 10-11-17 @ 1:01 PM kubes40 10-11-2017 @ 1:00 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Thunder road, OCD (obsessive - compulsive behavior) probably has more to do with this than anything else I have no proof of how the panels were produced but having much experience in the production environment, I am comfortable suggesting that most likely many thousands of these panels were produced at one time and placed in inventory for their eventual need on the assembly line. I also have little doubt that like the glass pieces, these panels were made identical and utilized right / left as needed. So, if the material was different on one side vs. the opposite side, once installed, that difference would be visually evident. Mike "Kube" Kubarth kubes40 10-11-2017 @ 1:07 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Domenic, From my research, it appears that the spare tire lock was no longer "standard" equipment for 1940 passenger cars. Rather, it would have been available only as a service part. I found only ONE letter that might suggest (I believe with a great imagination) that these locks remained standard equipment in 1940. That was a price sheet of the various models and what that price included. It was a very early sheet, July, 1939 as I recall, that appeared to be little more than a late 1939 sheet "copied" with price changes listed accordingly. My guess is someone overlooked the tire lock as "standard" equipment when typing up this sheet as subsequent letters had this piece eliminated from the description. Mike "Kube" Kubarth kubes40 10-11-2017 @ 1:13 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Ronford, I never found anything that dictated where that tag was to be attached / hung. Most likely, it was determined at the assembly line level and as such could very well have varied from plant to plant. I have found remnants of this tag hanging from the hinge in more than a couple of plausibly unmolested / unrestored cars. I've never found any signs of a tag "wired" to a bumper jack - not to suggest that didn't happen. Mike "Kube" Kubarth

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