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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Artillery wheel on a 5-5.5 bolt pattern?

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39topless
11-15-2013 @ 10:47 AM
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I just purchased a set of 37-39 artillery wheels for my '39 conv/coupe. I understood that these were the stock wheels for cars of these years. When I unpacked them I noticed the bolt pattern was about 10" across. Will these somehow work on my car, which has the standard 5-5 1/2 bolt pattern? I have not removed the wheels that are on the car yet (5-5 1/2 bolt pattern)to look at the hub. If they won't work, I have a real nice set of Ford artillery wheels for sale.
Thank you,

CharlieStephens
11-15-2013 @ 11:14 AM
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Your problem is that you have the wrong hubs/drums on your car. The original wheels for your car had a 5 on 10 1/4 bolt pattern. I assume someone installed a set of 1940-48 hubs/drums on your car. The correct drums/hubs should go right onto your car without other changes but they are getting a little difficult to find. Be patient and advertise. You may find someone that wants to swap. Be sure the drums you get are less than 12.060 in diameter.

Charlie Stephens

This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 11-15-13 @ 11:17 AM

kubes40
11-15-2013 @ 2:24 PM
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Charlie is 100% correct.
Here's a photo of the (spare) mounted in a '39 convertible coupe.

39topless
11-15-2013 @ 3:55 PM
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Thanks Charlie, simple answer.

39topless
11-15-2013 @ 3:57 PM
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Thanks for the photo.

wmsteed
11-19-2013 @ 10:15 AM
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As you have already found out, your car does not have the correct drums, with a bolt pattern of 5-5.5 you have '40-48 drums..
If you want original wheels, the wide five you will need to find '37-39 drums which will bolt right onto you car..
A word of advise... The term "Artillery Wheel" does not apply to the '36-39 Ford wheels.. The term Artillery wheel generally applies to the wheels used on certain models of '35/36 large cars, Buick,Pontiac, etc., usually 15" x 5.5, five or six lug. The artillery, steel disk wheel was a heavy duty option to replace the spoke wheels common to the early, mid 1930's, heavy duty pickups'35 through '48 also used the artillery type wheel. The pickup type preceded the split rim type that came into vogue on HD pickups in the early '50's.. The "artillery" term came into being because they resembled the steel disk wheel that was used on the artillery pieces (canon's) during WWI and later.. Another myth...
The people that like 1937-48 Chevy's like the Artillery six lug 15" wheels because they will fit the early Chevy's and accept the stock hub caps... It is very common to see a good 15" artillery wheel sell for over $200. each...
I have '36 wheels, date stamped with the Ford logo, on my '36 with '39 drums and stock '36 hub caps...

Bill
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12-02-2013 @ 5:45 PM
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I know the question has been answered correctly, But;
Have you ever seen a 39-40 Ford with 35 Ford 16" wire wheels? AWSOME!
Just a suggestion. Wire wheels can make a car really special and they'll go right on those 5 X 5.5 hubs.
Saw it on a 40 Pickup once and did it on a 37 Pickup
making it almost as good looking as the 35 Pickup. I'm sure it would do wonders on a Topless 39.

1934 Ford's since 1972

wmsteed
12-06-2013 @ 10:55 AM
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I guess that the desirability of wire Kelsey Haze type wheels on '36 and later Fords would have to be in the eye of the beholder.. For my money, they look dumb.
An added fact is a safety issue.. The '40 and later type drums do not have a flange to properly support the KH wire wheels, like the '35 and earlier do..

Bill
36 5 win delx cpe

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