Post to the EFV-8 Forum
Post Classified Ads
Shop the Online Store

User Login

Not Registered Yet? Click Here to Sign Up!

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

FORUM RULES: Users agree to these Rules when using Forum.

The site administrator reserves the right to change the terms and conditions of the user agreement without prior notice to the user. It is the responsibility of the user to regularly review the terms of this agreement.

The user agrees to the following terms:

All information that you provide to us for your membership is correct.
You will not use your membership to spam, harrass, or exploit other members in any way.
Vulgar, Abusive, Racist and Sexist Language will not be tolerated.
Commercial-type sales postings will not be allowed.
No mass posting or flooding of the boards is allowed.
No Advertising of parts or cars; no Ebay or business/commercial ads (please use the "Classified" for ads Wanted or For Sale).
VIEWING MULTIPLE TOPICS ON SCREEN: You can choose to see more than 10 Topics at a time ... Log In and choose "Preferences" from the top bar on the Forum page. Scroll down and Change the "Default Topics Returned" parameter to 25 or 50, and save the changes. Since this setting is stored in your browser 'cookies' (if enabled), it seems to use that stored value even if you are not logged in. So, if you use a PC that you haven't logged into the forum from, the setting still seem to remain at the default.
EXTERNAL PHOTO LINKS ON FORUM: You can still use external photo links in your posts on the new forum. They follow the rules of any link in that they have to have the URL link qualified down to the full image file name (example: .jpg). The links will open in a new browser window, the same as an uploaded image attached to a post. Since an image attachment to any post does not display inline with the post, the results are the same. You can use multiple external links within a post. This link is from photos on a site from Don Clink's 'Deuce@75' albums:

http://donclink.com/deuce_75_1/images/dscn2950.jpg

Using links from photo sites such as Photobucket can help in "size" issue with uploaded attachment files. For best viewing in web browsers, photos should be around the 800x600 pixel range, and probably not more than 1024x768. Most cameras today store HUGE jpg image files, as the default settings are in the 7, 8, 10, and 12Mb image sizes. The image files that are then attached are very large, and the browser can't display the full image size without using the scroll bars. Use the re-sizing functions of your photo editing software to reduce the image to 800x600, which reduces the file sixe and the image load time in the browser. Don uses Google's free Picassa3 software, which is an excellent photo management product. All of the photo albums of the Deuce, Grand National, and Auburn that are links on the NORG site were built using Picassa's web creation functions. And it's free? (THANKS to Don Clink for the info!)
HOW DO I SHOW MY EMAIL ADDRESS ALONG WITH MY USERNAME? You can LogIn on the Forum, and select PREFERENCES. On this page Members can add optional information such as their City,State, Country; Occupation; Hobbies: list a Homepage; list AOL Instant Messanger Handle; Signature; "Make Email Address viewable to others;" and even change the number of Default Topics shown on a page. WHEN others click on your profile, they will see this information.

EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Fuel problem

Reply to Discussion | New Discussion

<< previous || next >>

Posted By

Discussion Topic: Fuel problem -- page: 1 2

joe b

06-20-2013 @ 7:21 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Oct 2010

In communication with the Airtex Tech people their electric fuel pump Part No. E8902 is a flow through pump that can be installed and used for priming or vapor lock.It can be left off while driving. I know others have mentioned this pump but I thought I would post what I found out. This sounds like the way to go.

supereal

06-16-2013 @ 3:48 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 6819
Joined: Oct 2009

We don't use the oil pressure switch, as flathead oil pressure often gets near zero at idle. I understand the safety issue. The car companies use an "inertia" switch that shuts off the pump when a hard stop is detected. As for pumps, we have installed the pumps from C&G for years with no flow thru problems. As you have narrowed the problem down. I suspect the valves in the fuel pump may be restricting flow. I'd run a fuel pressure test at the carb that you can observe as you drive.

joe b

06-16-2013 @ 2:04 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Oct 2010

Tom O and Super. Tom I replaced the entire fuel line with new metal not rubber line. I don't see how it could collapse. The problem is that I will run out of fuel in about 10 blocks with the electric pump off. Turn it on,wait a few seconds and it will fire up and run fine.So, fuel cannot be passing through the pump with it turned off even though C&G and Carter say it should.

Super. My pump is wired to a toggle switch because the old pump I had was wired this way for priming and vapor lock. The switch is wired to the ignition so if I forgot it it would shut off. Do you have an oil pump
pressure switch that you like and preferably a part number?
Thanks

supereal

06-15-2013 @ 5:30 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 6819
Joined: Oct 2009

If you use an oil pressure switch as a safety measure, be sure to include a spring loaded bypass switch to allow the use of the pump to prime the carb before the engine is running. We wire the pump thru the ignition switch, anyway, so it is not running when the engine is off.

TomO

06-15-2013 @ 9:50 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 7386
Joined: Oct 2009

Joe,

You said that you replaced the fuel line going to the electric pump, could it be collapsing under the vacuum from the mechanical fuel pump? Your mechanical fuel pump should be able to deliver fuel through the pump.

The best way to wire the electric pump is through an oil pressure safety switch.

Tom

joe b

06-14-2013 @ 12:00 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Oct 2010

I think I may have found my problem. After all of the items I have posted above,I let the engine run with the throttle pulled out at fair high RPM and it ran fine. The electric fuel pump was not on. Pulled back in the garage account rain and it sat 5 days. Got in,fired right up and went for a drive. I got 7 blocks before it quit. Turned the electric fuel pump on and started again. Drove about 53 miles in city,on Interstate at 65 MPH and up hills in high gear and it ran fine.
So...it appears that the fuel pump has to be on all the time. The fuel pump is a Carter EFP9350-6C.
I called C&G Tech line and they said the pump is a flow through and I can use it for priming and backup. I called the Carter Tech line and they said the same thing. But this is not the case with my installation. A few questions/concerns: If I am in slow traffic or a long idle situation will the electric pump overflow the mechanical pump or carb? Is there a way to have the electric disabled in case of a bad accident? I am a retired fireman and this bothers me. During the drive I did not smell gas and after I stopped found no evidence of overflowing.

TomO

06-11-2013 @ 7:03 AM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 7386
Joined: Oct 2009

I agree with Bill Large, do some diagnostic work to isolate the problem.

Tom

supereal

06-10-2013 @ 7:20 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 6819
Joined: Oct 2009

Me. I've found that out the hard way!

joe b

06-10-2013 @ 4:33 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Oct 2010

Super, Thanks for the suggestion. I used spring clips and hose supplied. Looked under today and found gas moisture at both ends. Removed hose supplied and replaced with Ethanol proof hose and worm gear clamps.
Whodathunkit?

supereal

06-09-2013 @ 7:43 PM

reply profile send p.m.

Senior
Posts: 6819
Joined: Oct 2009

In addition to Bill's suggestion, if you have the spring type hose clamps anywhere between the tank and the carb, replace them with the worm gear type. The spring type, usually supplied with an electric pump, tend to leak air. This allows the pump(s) to lose prime and imitate running out of gas. If your problem happens with both pumps, I'd réclamp them. We don't use the hoses in the kits because they are often not fuel proof. If you are not using hose barb fittings between steel and rubber connections, that is also a problem.

<< previous || next >>

PAGE: 1 2

NOTE: YOU MUST BE A REGISTERED USER AND BE LOGGED IN TO POST (and reply to) messages in this forum. If you are a first time user, please click the CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT in the masthead above to register and Log In. After that, all you do is LOG IN to enjoy using this site.

DISCLAIMER: The V-8 Club does no independent testing of any of the opinions, thoughts or suggestions presented in the website on the Forum, in the Tech Tips section, or any section. A reader should consider the website to be a forum wherein differing solutions to a particular set of circumstances may be discussed. Ultimately, the selection of an item for an individual's vehicle must be based upon the independent study of the vehicle owner in consultation with people in the hobby and restoration experts.

Early Ford V-8 Club Forum

Merchandise Questions

Membership Questions