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bmwillia

05-09-2012 @ 1:48 PM

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Thanks for the info Tom.

I think I am just going to send the dist. and coil to Skip Haney and have them taken care of.

Thanks again for all of your help!

Thanks!

Brad Williamson

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05-09-2012 @ 8:07 AM

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That's good news, Brad.

Did O'Reillys give you instructions on charging the Optima?

Here is a link to the charging information.

http://www.optimabatteries.com/product_support/charging.php

If you have no spark to the plugs, check the input to the coil. The voltage should change from 6 Volts to about 3 volts as the engine is turned over. The lower reading is when the points are closed.

If you still need help, it is best to start a new topic.

Tom

bmwillia

05-08-2012 @ 7:18 PM

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Thanks for the input guys!

I found the problem.. It happened to be a bad battery.

I found out the starter was good by connecting a 12v battery to the starter and it turned the engine with no problem.

I took the battery to oreilly's where I bought it a few weeks ago. They tested it and said it was good but needed charging. I took it home and charged it all night with an auto shut off 6v charger. tried it agian and still nothing. I took it back to oreilly's and they determined the battery to be bad. They gave me a new battey and it is working great now.

Now the problem I have is no spark to the plugs. Time to learn something new!

Thank you all for your input!

Thanks!

Brad Williamson

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05-08-2012 @ 7:50 AM

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Brad,

If your starter works off of the car, it should work when it is in the car.

From your posts, I suspect that you are using 12 volt cables and when you removed the starter you did something that caused it to not work.

If you have the starter out, check to see that the armature shaft turns freely, this is the shaft that the Bendix is mounted on. Try running the starter outside of the car. Make sure that you put nuts on the bolts that hold the starter to the oil pan. The starter should spin fast with no load.

If the starter is installed on the car, check that you can turn over the engine by hand. If you cannot turn the engine by hand with the starter, but can without the starter, you have managed to bind up the starter. Rock the car in gear to free up the starter.

If you remove the starter armature from its case, examine the armature (the big silver section) for scuff marks and clean the commutator of all grease and dirt. To reassemble the starter, first pull the brushes up into their holders until they look like the photo with the spring resting against the side of the brush. Then you can install the armature without fussing with the brushes. When you have it back together, just push the brushes to seat against the commutator.

Tom

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05-07-2012 @ 6:28 PM

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Brad,

Did you add the solenoid? That year had a floor starter switch. If that solenoid switch is not working correctly you will have nothing much at the starter.

I put a solenoid on a '13 Ford for a starter. Six volt from Tractor Supply. Turns it over like my '35 Ford. Swift and only $8. I don't believe you said what voltage, 6 or 12.

Ken in Texas

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05-07-2012 @ 9:08 AM

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Tom,

The starter is back together correctly from what I can tell. The bendix drive does turn freely by hand.

Is it possible to put it back on the engine incorrectly? It seemed to me to go back together fine. The bolts lined up etc.

Thanks!

Brad Williamson

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05-07-2012 @ 7:30 AM

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Brad,

Are you sure that the starter is back together correctly? Does the shaft with the Bendix drive turn freely?

Do you have a local shop that repairs alternators, generators and starters? If so give them a call and ask if they can check out a 6 volt starter.

Do you belong to a local car club? Maybe some one in the club can give you a litle hands on guidance.

Tom

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bmwillia

05-06-2012 @ 6:10 PM

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Super,

I tried your suggestion and got nothing. I heard a click in the starter, but I didn't get any movement.

Looks like it is time for a new starter.

Thanks!

Brad Williamson

bmwillia

05-06-2012 @ 3:30 PM

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Ok..

I took the starter back off and apart. I must have had the brushes jammed up or something because it is back to doing what it was before.

I think that my battery cables and switch to starter cable may be too small. Some guys over at the fordbarn.com suggested that the battery cables should be at least single 0 or 00 guage.

Thanks for the input guys! I am slowly working through this.

Thanks!

Brad Williamson

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05-06-2012 @ 8:52 AM

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If you don't hear the solenoid click when you push the starter button, start (no pun) there. To eliminate that as a cause, run a jumper directly from the battery hot side to the starter input terminal. Just be sure that the car is out of gear, and the ignition is off. If the starter turns the engine over, it is OK. If not, either order a replacement, or rebuild it, if you know how.

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