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carcrazy

10-28-2009 @ 10:02 AM

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Five questions: 1. Will the 1940 Ford V8-60 flat flywheel fit the 1937 to 1939 Ford V8-60 engine with no other modifications? 2. Who offers the best kit to install the Chevy S10 Borg-Warner 5-Speed manual transmission behind the Ford V8-60 engine? 3. Where is the best place to buy parts for a stock overhaul of the V8-60? 4. Which is the best machine shop to use to have any required work done on a V8-60 in the Monterey Peninsula Area? 5. Who offers a kit to install a 1942 Crab type distributor on the V8-60?

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10-28-2009 @ 2:56 PM

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I'm not sure why you want to spend time and money on a 60. That engine is, for all practical purposes, obsolete. We obtained parts for a 60 some time ago at Little Dearborn in Minnesota. The engine was in a Crosley, and it took much searching to find even the most usual parts. The popularity of the 60 was limited due to the fact it was underpowered for the cars and trucks of the day. It did become popular in the midget racers of the 40's, but only after being fitted with the speed equipment of that era.

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10-29-2009 @ 8:02 AM

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The flywheel P/N for 37-40 60 HP engine is the same, so it should fit. 60HP drive train parts are hard to find. You can try Little Dearborn, Job Lot and Egge. If they don't have the parts that you need, advertise in Hemmings, V-8 Times and on this site as well as the Ford Barn.
I cannot answer your other questions. Speedway offers a plate that will adapt the 42-48 distributor to replace the 37-41 distributor on the 85-95 engines, but I don't know if it has the correct configuration for the 60 HP. I would stick with the original distributor as the later distributor would not offer any performance or reliability improvements.

Before you spend any money on parts for the engine, have it examined for suitability for rebuilding. The pre 1940 engines had a reputation for rusting the steel sides of the block and there is no reliable way to replace them.

Tom

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10-29-2009 @ 10:10 AM

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Tom, Thanks for the advice. Mine is a 1938 or 1939 engine of full cast iron construction. Since I don't have a distributor for the engine, I was hoping to go with the 1942 unit, to save expense (once adapted to the engine), improve the looks, and free up space at the front of the engine for an electric cooling fan. Currently all of the valves are stuck open. Do you have any advice for freeing them up? Also do you know if a pickle bar for an 85 HP engine will work on a V8-60? Thanks again.

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10-29-2009 @ 10:10 AM

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"I'm not sure why you want to spend time and money on a 60."

... another wet blanket.

V8-60's are more popular than ever.

Crazy, try the following link:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=348205&highlight=flathead+60hp

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10-29-2009 @ 4:20 PM

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Come on guys, for all practical purposes ALL flatheads are obsolete, but that's part of the reason we like them! If he wants to restore a 60, I think that's great and we should help all we can. I recently sold a '37 with a 60 and it was the smoothest running engine I've ever had!

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10-30-2009 @ 9:50 AM

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The 37-41 distributors are plentiful and reasonable in price. I see 37-41 distributors priced about the same as the 42-48 distributors at swap meets. The points and condensers for both style of distributors are priced comparably.

Both should be set up on a distributor machine by someone who is familiar with the distributors. The current supply of points are not of the quality that was prevalent 20 years ago. Some have springs that do not hold their tension, others come with too little tension and others have internal shorts. All of these conditions can be easily detected when set up on a distributor machine and difficult to diagnose with the distributor on the car.

I don't see much space saving in adding the adapter plate and then the distributor and cap from a 42 on your engine. If you are putting the engine into a Ford car or truck from 37-40, you should have plenty of room to install an electric fan.

To free the valves, any penetrating oil will dissolve the varnish, if they are rusted in place, I don't know of any solution other than replacing the valves and guides. The valve bar for the 85 HP engine should work on your engine.

Tom

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11-02-2009 @ 9:29 AM

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I know a man that has a '48 MG, which he bought new, that has a '40 V8-60 trk eng in the MG. The engine is pretty well full race, with a '42 crab style distributor cap on a Mallory ignition. My friend installed the engine in about 1952 because he was racing the car and the original would not stay together. The engine has not been a part since it was installed in '52.. The car has not been raced in close to 40 years, other than drippy water pumps the engine is in great shape.
I gave my friend Skip Haney's address for him to send his water pumps into, to get them rebuilt.

H & H Flatheads in La Crescenta, CA www.flatheads-forever.com... They usually have a full page ad in the V8 Times which states they rebuild V8- 60's.

I recently ran into a man that was gathering parts for a V8-60 to put in an MG... He got real excited when I sent him pic's and info about the conversion...

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11-02-2009 @ 11:34 AM

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Bill, Thanks for the V8-60 info. I'll follow-up with the folks who will work on V8-60's.

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11-02-2009 @ 1:11 PM

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I'm not trying to be a "wet blanket", only to point out that finding parts for the 60HP can be a really tough (and expensive) search, particularly for the early types. We have done a few of those, and you have to know which you have, paticularly for parts such as waterpumps, because the two types don't interchange. Most of the 60's we've seen were used in non-Ford cars, such as Crosleys, MGs, etc, due to their size. In a full sized car or truck, they are very weak.

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