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mikecnc

12-01-2022 @ 8:40 AM

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I have just replaced the Master Cylinder on my 53 Club Coupe following the instructions in the 52/53 Shop Manual with the help of a fellow V8er. We adjusted the free play with the eccentric bolt that attaches the master cylinder push rod to the brake pedal arm per the Shop Manual, but we could not get the enough free play; during the test drive the brakes began to drag and eventually locked up. After waiting for the brakes fluid to cool and release the shoes, we drove back home where the brakes again locked up in the driveway. Any suggestions? Thank you!

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12-01-2022 @ 11:20 AM

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mikecnc
did you use the old push rod or did the new master come with new push rod, it might be too long,
compare the 2 of them,
were did you get the new master cylinder,?
what is happening
your piston is not returning back enough for the fluid to return to the resovoir, and releasing the pressure in the lines,
try more free play, if not the
jack up the car so wheels can be rotated,
pump the brakes, see if brakes release. if not adjust till they do, back off adjustment till they do,
make sure there is nothing blocking the push rod, or sticking parts, not allowing it to return all the way,
is on all four wheels or just one,?
IF IT IS JUST ONE, the rubber line is at fault, if it is replace both lines, if in the rear repalce that rubber line,
HOPE this helps 37Ragtopman, Maine

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12-01-2022 @ 2:45 PM

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Used old push rod; master cylinder did not come with a push rod, it did come with a new boot. The push rod did not have a part # on it, but a strange 5 digit # that didn't make any sense; the part # s/b 2143. My helper thinks that the push rod is too long and am getting another from a friend who has a 53 parts car and then will compare them. Purchased from Dennis Carpenter (made in Tiawan). All 4 wheels locked up and did check if push rod is sticking and it's not. Will report situation when push rod is replaced. May have to make adjustment to brakes in all 4 wheels. Thanks for the reply.

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12-02-2022 @ 5:49 AM

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Not sure about 53 but earlier cars need the brake pedal return spring attached so the pedal returns properly all the way.

sarahcecelia

12-03-2022 @ 5:01 AM

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"All cars have to have a return spring on the brake pedal; so the push rod can relieve the pressure on the master cylinder piston."(Otherwise the brake shoes will stay IN CONTACT WITH THE BRAKE DRUMS)Free play at the pedal should be about 1/8" To + plus a very small amount!(Just enugh to relieve preessure on the master cylinder piston!)

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TomO

12-03-2022 @ 10:51 AM

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Compare the master cylinders. The new one may not have a thick enough mounting flange or the piston may be sticking out too far. I hope that you still have your old master cylinder and that it is not pitted beyond repair. The new one are coming from over seas where that have variable scales on their measuring tools.

I have had better luck with brake parts from a local parts house or NAPA.

Tom

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