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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / 1935 Convertible Sedan slow crank

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35ford

04-18-2020 @ 3:53 AM

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Be sure to clean the surface of the pan where the starter bolts to and the surface on the starter that it mates to as this is the Ground connection and is often over looked. kerk

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04-17-2020 @ 10:36 AM

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Update: after following the suggestions I found wiring and switches all looked good. So I pulled the starter and it is in the shop to get cleaned up. Hopefully this helps my cranking situation.

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04-11-2020 @ 6:13 PM

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Thanks guys for the suggestions. I am looking into your suggestions. I appreciate your input, I'll let you know what progress I make.

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04-11-2020 @ 7:28 AM

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Rich, your problem could be the battery, battery cables, starter switch or starter cable.

The easiest way to find out where your problem is is use a voltmeter to check the voltage drop. Read my post in this link for the way to do this.

https://www.earlyfordv8.org/forum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=18&Topic=10635&keywords=slow%20cranking

You can also just use your eyes and your hands to get an idea of where the problem is.

Using your eyes, check the cables for size. The 12 volt cables are similar in size to your modern car battery cables. The 6 volt cables are at least twice the size of the cables in your modern car. Remove the band at te front of the starter and look at the brushes, they should stick out of their holders by about 1/16" or more. If they are even with the top of the holder, it is time to have the starter serviced.

Using your hands:
Crank the engine for about 15 seconds and then feel the battery cable to the starter switch and quickly test the switch for being hot. A bad switch will get very hot, so be careful. If those items are close to air temperature, then crank the engine for another 15 seconds and feel the starter cable and the ground cable. Replace any components that get hot.

The foot switch on the 35 cars is a common source for high resistance that causes the starter to turn slow. Others have said that the reproduction switches do not hold up.

If the cables and switch check out, you will have to remove your starter and take it in to a generator and starter repair service.

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04-11-2020 @ 6:19 AM

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hi
how is the starter in the car ?
is this all of a sudden problem?
it could be the starter switch, check all your connections,
I had the same problem, and it was the starter,
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so you can install and remove ,,,
I hear the new starter drives made today are a real problem when you install the starter,
hope this helps, lets hear how you made out,

04-10-2020 @ 8:55 PM

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Simple things first....Go over all the connections in the starter circuit. Make sure you have good/clean/tight connections at the battery terminals. Make sure the battery ground connection is good/clean/ tight. The battery cable must be the correct gauge size - size O-AWG. Many times people will replace battery cables on 6 volt batteries with 12 volt cables which are too small a gauge to handle the current requirements of a 6 volt system. Make sure the cable connection at the starter motor is tight and that the stater motor is secured tight to the block....

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04-10-2020 @ 8:29 PM

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I have an issue starting my sedan and thought I would see if any of you have a suggestion. Maybe what I am experiencing is common.

I am running a 6 volt system. The problem is the engine cranks very slowly, even with a fully charged battery. Even with a new battery. I use a battery tender when the car sits. I don't get a very quick spin. The sedan will start, but it is a very labored crank.

I drove it to the gas station and after filling it with gas, it would not crank at all. The starter would engage, but no spin. I let the car roll and popped the clutch, not to try and start it, but just to spin the starter. It then cranks (but slowly).

I am thinking my starter does not have the umph. I don't know the history of the starter. Maybe brushes are dirty and that is effecting the amount of torque the starter can provide.

Should I have the starter rebuilt? Or are there higher performing starters available?

Any suggestions?

Rich

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