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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Stromberg 97 or Holley 94

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croftonfoxes
10-14-2019 @ 10:32 PM
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Opinions... I have been doing some research on line and I have come across several folks who have replaced their Holley 94’s with Stromberg 97’s and have been very happy. My ‘48 Ford Convertible has a Holley 94 of unknown age. It is giving me surge and acceleration issues. Not knowing anything about the history of the carb I have, I was planning on replacing it with a rebuilt 94, but after what I have read about some issues around the 94, I am wondering if replacing my carb now with a Stromberg is a better idea. Thoughts?

TomO
10-15-2019 @ 6:33 AM
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A properly rebuilt Ford / Holley carburetor will work very well on your car. The model 59 was designed for your engine, the 97 was designed for the 221 cu in engine with a different advance curve.

Charlie Schwendler in NY (716/662-9159) has more recommendations for his rebuilds than any other rebuilder. He tests every carburetor on a running engine. He also machines the power valve seating surface and the ensures that the mating surface between the body and the base seals good for the best power valve performance.

Tom

therunwaybehind
10-15-2019 @ 8:07 AM
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Don't forget the Stromberg 48 which was used on the 1934. It isn't a member of the 59A block, 21A rods and 97 carburet0r cache but is a bit bigger than either the 94 or 97 and doesn't seem that much cruder. Definitely, get it rebuilt with a good needle valve to avoid fires.

whizzerbug
10-15-2019 @ 10:36 AM
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im running a Stromberg 48 on 59ab engine in a 40 coupe runs good, the needle and seat was replaced with a grose valve , had too many problems with holleys,power valves ect ect

This message was edited by whizzerbug on 10-15-19 @ 10:39 AM

supereal
10-15-2019 @ 12:25 PM
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My choice would be the 94. There was a reason the 97 was replaced. As carbs go. it is unnecessarily complicated. At our shop we just rebuilt a 97 for a customer. The cost of the kit and labor was over $200. I couldn't locate the special wrench required in my tool box, so we had to create a new one. If your old carb is beyond repair, a new replacement 94 is available from C&G for $335. 59A-9510-N (800) 266-0470.

therunwaybehind
10-16-2019 @ 8:51 AM
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Special wrench? The one for the jets? I had one of those way back as well as the last jets that Warshawsky/J.C.Whitney had in 1965. It is about two inches long in a rod that just fits through the back of the float bowl when the brass plugs are removed. The complex issue is with the shape of the wells that fit over the jets? Flat on the sides and circular on the ends in a crossection across the rod. You would drill a rod several times from the end and then carefully file the scallops that remained. A smaller rod run through the bigger one to make a tee handle would complete your "tool." Let me look for it online. Walmart has one https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stromberg-Carburetor-Jet-Wrench/777401918?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222255736770&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=74491998435397&wl4=pla-4578091562750899&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=777401918_10000013338&wl14=Stromberg%20carburetor%20jet%20wrench&veh=sem Mac's has them as well as the jets themselves.

croftonfoxes
10-16-2019 @ 11:02 AM
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Thank you everyone! Looks like I will going with a Holley 59a. That is what the car has now, so it seems like the safest bet to stick to whoever brought one to the dance! Thank you again!

TomO
10-19-2019 @ 9:45 AM
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whizzerbug, You are driving around with a fire hazard. It would be a shame to see such a pretty engine compartment ruined by a fire. I am sure that the rest of the car looks as good as the engine compartment.

Using a plastic filter and a rubber hose on the output of the fuel pump could cause a serious fire if either of them leaked.

Rubber hose should never be used on the output of the fuel pump. It could leak and you will have a steady stream of fuel to feed any fire that develops. A leaky rubber hose on the input to the fuel pump, will cause a lack of vacuum on the input side and the pump will not be able to suck fuel from the tank.

I would use a filter that fits inside the sediment bowl of the fuel pump, if you feel that you need extra filtration. Replace the rubber hose with a steel line.

I would also move the coil closer to the distributor to shorten the high tension lead. It would improve the performance of the ignition system.

Tom

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