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Posted By Discussion Topic: Concourse Judging - First time -- page: 1 2     FrankM-RG5 02-09-2018 @ 7:14 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 135 Joined: Oct 2009 You are not specific about the electrical changes but if you added turn signals that is considered a safety item no pints would be deducted. TomO 02-08-2018 @ 8:18 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7385 Joined: Oct 2009 Jim, you can read about the different classes and requirements for each class in the Judging Manual pages 5 and 6 for Touring and Touring A vehicles. The engine compartment is inspected at the Operational Check to ensure that the owner knows that only Ford bodied cars, powered by 1932- 1953 Ford manufactured engines are allowed on the Concourse for National Trophys. Tom carguy 02-08-2018 @ 5:08 AM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 167 Joined: Oct 2009 Thank you all very much for taking the time to answer my questions and making me comfortable about entering my car. I'm now looking forward to the experience. As I said my only interest in having her judged is so that I will understand the areas items that are not concourse correct. It will not bother me to loose points. My only other EFV8 meet experience was in Branson a number of years ago. I really enjoyed seeing all of the beautiful Fords that I remember form my childhood. It made me wish that I had driven mine instead of a Viper. Bill Brown '34 Cabriolet trjford8 02-07-2018 @ 5:49 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 4355 Joined: Oct 2009 Jim entering your car is a learning process. I suspect you may already know the things that are wrong, so they will come as no surprise. You probably want to know those things that you are not aware of that are wrong. The only way to find out is to enter it in the judged class. The Touring class cars are not judged so you do not find out what you may want to correct in the future. The bottom line is enter the car, find out what is needed to be corrected and most of all have a good time. It 's the people you connect with at the meet that will make your trip to Dearborn a memorable trip. jim1932 02-07-2018 @ 4:35 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 137 Joined: Oct 2010 Yeah, but where can you read about what the categories are? I am leaning towards concourse just to get the judging and list of things to determine if I want to fix. There are things I would rather leave on for the interest factor (Montgomery Wards heater) and take the hit on the judging, but at least I would know what I would gain by taking it off. If I could get to a high award I would take stuff off and put the originals on, just don't think I can get there, so I would rather keep it as a 30's car as someone may have assembled it. Hope I can get to dearborn...there are a number of people who have been helping me for years, would like for them to see the car (Dave, Roy, Charlie and others). ford38v8 02-07-2018 @ 2:35 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2883 Joined: Oct 2009 jim, A Simmons Power Head, while not being a Ford Authorized Accessory, would not disqualify you from entering the Concourse in a point judged category. I would certainly not consider changing that for Concourse reasons if it were mine! Alan This message was edited by ford38v8 on 2-7-18 @ 2:43 PM jim1932 02-07-2018 @ 1:47 PM reply profile send p.m. New Member Posts: 137 Joined: Oct 2010 where do you find what the various categories represent? For example Touring and Touring A says vehicles will be subject to under-hood inspection for allowable equipment. Mine is pretty original, but not rouge. I'd like to run it with my Simmons power head, intake and carb set up, which is (I think) period correct. ford38v8 02-07-2018 @ 12:53 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 2883 Joined: Oct 2009 Bill, I agree with all of the above, and would add the following: Your statement that you have made electrical modifications leads me to emphasize that modifications from original will result in point deductions. You may minimize those deductions by replacing modern wiring with correct wiring having the original type of insulation, which is available from several makers and most suppliers. On the Concourse, brief notes are sometimes made referencing specific deductions, and are explained by the Deputy immediately after your car is judged. It is best that you understand those deductions at that time of review, and to make your own notes thereafter. The judging sheets will be given to owners at the awards banquet, after which you may research each item you may wish to correct. Alan MG 02-07-2018 @ 12:47 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1301 Joined: Nov 2009 Enter you car to have it judged on the Concours Field and to h*ll with any point deductions. Take satisfaction in knowing that you have a car just good enough to be there. Think of it as a learning experience and enjoy the day.... 42wagon 02-07-2018 @ 12:13 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 586 Joined: Oct 2009 Keep in mind that your car is being judged by itself, not in comparison with other cars on the field as might be the case in other shows. The goal is to have your car as close to the way it left the Ford assembly plant or dealer as possible. You start with 1000 points and there will be deductions for items that are incorrect. You mentioned that you have made changes to make the car more drive able. Depending what you have done there may be considerable points taken off. Will the criticism be uncomfortable? Only if you think what modifications you have done are reasonable even if there is no way they would have been part of the car originally. You must ask yourself if your goal is to have a 1000 point car or just to have fun and enjoy driving it. If your answer is just to have fun then you probably belong in the touring class if you have made considerable modifications.

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