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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Ford Discussion / Blades breaking off two fans

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40headaches
05-11-2016 @ 2:55 PM
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I'm taking it to our club car show Sun. Maybe some mechanically inclined people will show up and join me and my car. Maybe if I bring some tools we can all have some fun.

TomO
05-12-2016 @ 7:38 AM
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I read your post on the Ford Barn about the transmission being hard to shift after adjusting it. The correct freeplay adjustment is 1"- 1 1/4", measured at the clutch pedal, with the engine running. You had adjusted it to 1 1/2" - 1 3/4".

If you still have problems shifting with this adjustment, look for worn parts in the clutch linkage. Most common are the clutch pedal bushings and the cross shaft and bushings. Don't add STP or any other additive to slow down the synchonizers and gears, you will only postpone fixing the problem for a short time and mat damage the roller bearings in the transmission.

You do not need a long breaker bar to tighten the crankshaft pulley. I tighten mine to 40-45 Ft-lbs. and have never had one come loose.

Tom

This message was edited by TomO on 5-12-16 @ 8:02 AM

40headaches
05-16-2016 @ 11:38 AM
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I just put a dial indicator from a fixed point to the rim of the hub. Using a socket and ratchet I rotated the crank shaft and noticed that I had 1/1000" movement just applying pressure to rotate. Meaning I was moving the hub/shaft downward before I started to roate. I had a variable of 5/1000" difference w/ a complete revolution in terms of center of shaft to outer rim edge of pully hub where the hand crank bolt is. So would I be guessing right that it should not be doing either of those? OK so I removed the pully/ flange/ hub. What is its proper name? the hub was clean of paint and it was smooth. I afixed a dial on the crankshaft. Spun it by hand and by starter button. Same results.

1) I have a solid 1/1000" variance. Is this ok?

2) I have a 1.5+/1000" free play in that shaft moving it by hand up and down side to side. Is this ok?

3) I also noticed that when using the starter the motor torqued it up to 5/1000" free play if you will. This does not look good to me. Right?

FYI, as I installed the pully it was tight starting 1" on the shaft, then it was free going on the shft to the motor. As I removed the pully it was tight coming off the first .5" then free then tight again the last 1".
tight = use of hammer and rod for install thru the crank hole and a puller to remove.

4) Is any of this not ok?
There is a tapper inside the pully sleeve, I can feel a rim where it goes flat after an 1" from the pully end.


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40headaches
05-31-2016 @ 6:23 AM
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Discovered that the crankshaft only had three bolts holding it together. The others were snapped off down by the threads. A crack was also found in the block. Thank you for everyone's ideas. Now I know why my fans were breaking. And my rumble was not the way it was supposed to be.

TomO
05-31-2016 @ 7:36 AM
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I am sorry to hear about your block crack. Where is the crack? Can it be repaired with stitching?

The broken main studs and the trouble that you had loosening the crank pulley, lead me to believe that whoever assembled the engine did not own a torque wrench. I hope that you will be able to save the block.

Tom

40headaches
05-31-2016 @ 10:15 AM
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Gunther's Machine Shop of MD did not want to rebuild my motor. So the block is toast. It had cylinder sleeves. Tom the motor was rebuilt w/ the same carelessness as the rest of the car back in '95. The Co. who did the work just had no desire to do quality work w/ the craftsmanship that should have been used. The transmission was installed w/ a broken mount too. Covered it up w/ a big washer. If I should ever discover that shop I have a few choice words to express. Gunther's passed my Dad's motor and now I wait 8 weeks. Eastern National Meet will be tight to say the least.

TomO
06-01-2016 @ 8:24 AM
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Most 1939 and 1940 Ford engines had thin steel sleeves. That was an idea that Ford engineers had to prolong the life of the block. An engine could be rebuilt, with a standard bore many times, before the block would have to be discarded. So having sleeves is not a good reason to discard a block.

Your block has other issues , so it may have to be scr*pped.



Tom

shogun1940
06-01-2016 @ 5:48 PM
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I bought a flathead years ago that had the weights shaved off for racing , went fast but shook like h*ll

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