| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-15-2026 @ 11:05 AM |
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Good Afternoon I recently entered my ‘37 Ford Model 78 Deluxe in an AACA Grand National event. My judging report came back with 2 deductions: one for seat cushions and a second for wheel rims. I am looking to see if I can get any pointers of photos of the as manufactured cushions and wheels. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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| Kens 36 | -- 09-15-2026 @ 12:51 PM |
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Some other folks may chime in with specific advice. First, I wanted to ask you if you have the 1937 Ford Book from the Early Ford V-8 Club? It is available in the Online Store on the left, or at this link: https://shop.efv8.org/collections/ford-books/products/1937-ford-book-softbound. Did the AACA judges tell you what specifically was wrong with the rims? I personally don't see anything incorrect about them from the picture. Ken
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| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-15-2026 @ 12:57 PM |
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Hi Ken Thank you for responding. I do have the book you mentioned. It was with us through the entire restoration. It was a huge help. Unfortunately AACA does not give exact feedback.
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| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-15-2026 @ 12:59 PM |
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In doing sim AI research, it mentions I am missing a pin stripe on the rims, the tightly pulled buttons on the seat cushions (creating the diamond look) is not original as well as the fabric on the cushions.
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| kubes40 | -- 09-15-2026 @ 1:54 PM |
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Finewine, please understand that for the most part, the AACA judges on the quality of the restoration vs. the correctness. That is the main reason I have never given too much stock in their awards. Within the photo of the tire / wheel I noted you have incorrect valve stem caps; a certain deduction on the Ford V8 Club concourse. If you are truly serious about absolute correctness, you would be best served by having your car judged at a Club (national) meet or preferably two or more. Oh, quick question... are the tires white on both sides (double whites)? Mike "Kube" Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 9-15-26 @ 1:55 PM
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| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-16-2026 @ 3:17 AM |
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Thank you a appreciate your input and guidance
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 09-16-2026 @ 7:26 AM |
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finewine, Mike is correct, having a "brand specific vehicle", such as a V-8 Ford, Model A ford, Corvette, etc. judged by their own Club Judging Standards is far more exacting than judging those vehicles by the A.A.C.A. For example, I don't think there is a more documented vehicle than the Model A Ford, as the Judging Standards are 2" thick and can document a vehicle part down to the production month. As Mike adds, I would take your '37 to a V-8 Ford Club meet and see how your car does.
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| mikecnc | -- 09-16-2026 @ 8:56 AM |
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Finewine: I have been an AACA member since 2016 and at that time I entered my 35 Deluxe Tudor with a 59AB engine in my 1st Nat'l Meet and received a 1st Junior Award ( not the correct engine). Later in the year I entered another AACA Meet for a Senior Award and the incorrect engine was discovered and my car was disqualified. I have shown this car in 4 EFV8COA Nat'l Meets in the Touring Class and have won 1st place in my class each time. I now have a 53 Customline Club Coupe which was restored by the prior owner, but he painted the car two tone in incorrect colors for 1953. I entered the car in the EFV8COA Meet in Franklin, TN in the Touring Class and won 1st in my Class. This car has been entered in numerous AACA Nat'l Meets and it received it's 1st Grand National Award in 2025. To the best of my knowledge, the 53 is correct except for the paint colors. I would love to enter it in another V8 Club Nat'l Meet and have it point judged, but I don't have a truck/trailer so I would have to drive it to the Meet, but there haven't been any close enough to attend. As you can see by my experiences, AACA judging standards are to be taken with a grain of salt!
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| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-16-2026 @ 4:51 PM |
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My apologies everyone, I didn’t intend this to be an AACA vs. EFV-8 . I hear you all loud and clear about having the car judged by the EFV-8, and I will attempt to this. I was hoping that I would receive some input as how to better my car. This message was edited by finewine2026@aol.com on 9-16-26 @ 4:52 PM
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| Jeepbut | -- 09-16-2026 @ 6:56 PM |
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Let me judge it-----It's perfect!
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| nelsb01 | -- 09-16-2026 @ 8:01 PM |
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finewine, Don't trust AI. It's like what they tell you in Beginning Computer Science -- garbage in, garbage out. Ford didn't have any type of pin stripe on the wheels in 1936. On the body, yes, but not the wheel rims. That came in later years. Nice looking hubcaps --- wish I had found some like that years ago.
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-16-2026 @ 9:17 PM |
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Finewine, you have the best of the best advice in the first response to your question, from Ken’s 36. All your questions on Correct-as-Henry-Built-It are answered in that book. Alan
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| v8fordman | -- 09-17-2026 @ 4:53 AM |
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Being an author of the ‘37 Book, I don’t see one thing wrong with your car based on the pictures. As someone mentioned, your tires should be double white walls, but that can’t be seen in your picture. One thing I did notice, but would not be a deduction, is the 3 tie bars on your banjo wheel are too close to the hub. (This could put undue radial pressure on the hub and cause it to eventually crack). If you look at the spokes, on the back side, many times there is a dimple on one of them which defines where the bars should be. You may want to look in the book for a picture if the dimples are not there.
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| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-17-2026 @ 9:16 AM |
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Mikecnc, Thank you for sharing. Very interesting. This message was edited by finewine2026@aol.com on 9-17-26 @ 9:19 AM
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| finewine2026@aol.com | -- 09-17-2026 @ 9:22 AM |
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v8fordman, Thank you for the information this is very helpful as I am trying to get to as near perfect car as I can, in memory of my dad.
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| TonyM | -- 09-17-2026 @ 10:28 AM |
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This is the original December 1936 wheel that came with my 1937 Ford from the factory. There are NO pinstripes on stock Ford wheels. . . . 78-730B
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| v8er | -- 09-17-2026 @ 1:44 PM |
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There is a 1935 Ford five window coupe for sale on Facebook Marketplace that is an AACA Grand National Senior. It is a shiny well restored car that has an excellent appearance. From the few photos in the ad, it has an incorrect steering wheel, an incorrect speedometer and an incorrect shift lever. There are no photos of the upholstery or the engine. AACA judges have a very difficult, almost impossible job of assessing many makes and models of cars presented for judging. No one person is an expert on all of the cars.
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