Topic: 1951 Ford Victoria


Andy 51Vic    -- 08-15-2024 @ 9:04 AM
  Hello,
I am new to the forum and need some advice.
I just bought a 1951 Victoria this morning. Where can I find vin tag decoding information?
Thank for the help,
Andy


40cpe    -- 08-15-2024 @ 3:06 PM
  I can't help you with your question, but congratulations on your beautiful car. I'll bet those good looking pups would like a ride. Welcome to the EF V8 forum!


v8er    -- 08-15-2024 @ 3:42 PM
  Buy the Club's 49-51 book on this site. It will answer all of your questions.


1940 Tom    -- 08-15-2024 @ 7:54 PM
  v8er's suggestion is an excellent one.

However, as a newbie to the Club, you might not have learned about all the good info that this site offers, and how to access it.

To order your book, go to Online Store in the blue panel on the left of your screen, and click on the "Ford Books" link. Your book is shown on the second page of the link.

Your Vickie is beautiful!

Welcome to the EFV8CA.

Tom


Kens 36    -- 08-15-2024 @ 7:55 PM
  Andy,

For sure, buy the 1949-1951 Ford Book form the Online Store tab. Also, your car should have a data plate. If you give us the information on that plate we can help you out.

Ken


Grant    -- 08-16-2024 @ 4:51 AM
  Open the hood, and look on your Victoria's firewall for the data plate that Ken is telling you about.

There may also be a sequence of letters and numbers stamped into the painted cowl, above the horizontal pinch weld, more or less directly behind the air cleaner.

That's a 1951 Ford firewall and engine room in the photo below.


51woodie    -- 08-16-2024 @ 7:22 AM
  The 49 to 51 Ford book will be an excellent resource for you. Van Pelt's web site is also a good source for VIN identification, parts drawings and more. VP is also a reputable supplier of parts.

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_serialnumbers.htm

From VP's site:
The 1949-50 and early 1951 Ford passenger cars did not have a Patent Plate/VIN tag with any breakdown data for the specific car. Late 1951 models included a stamped data plate, which included the vehicle serial number and a production code (defining color, trim, etc). The date plate with serial number and production codes continued with 1952 models and thereafter. The data plate chart for 1949-59 has a limited amount of information for the 49-51 model years. More production code numbers/letters were stamped in the cowl (dash panel) of 1949 to early 1951 models. The Early Ford V8 Club of America has additional information for these in its 1949-51 Restorers Guide book. Station wagons from 1949 to 1951 had special serial number codes with the A prefix. There were exceptions on the wagon serial numbers.


Andy 51Vic    -- 08-16-2024 @ 10:10 AM
  Thanks for the tip guys.
I will order the book.
Here is the information on the tag
I really love this car so far


Kens 36    -- 08-16-2024 @ 12:35 PM
  OK, here goes, but not all of it seems to agree with published information.

In your serial number, B = V-8, 1 = 1951, SP = St. Paul assembly plant, and 137491 is the sequence number of V-8’s assembled at that plant in the 1951 model year.

The code below:
60 = Custom Victoria body code
KR = Victoria paint code – Hawaiian Bronze lower, Sandpiper Tan upper
AB = Tan Bedford Cord ensemble interior
26 = assembly date
I = assembly month? (doesn’t make sense – Ford didn’t use I for month)
2 = Unknown
644 = unit production number that day

Some of this may still be a mystery, but this should be close.

Ken



Andy 51Vic    -- 08-17-2024 @ 7:40 AM
  Thanks for the information Ken. I may have something wrote down wrong.
I will look when I get home from the Woodward Dream cruise.



Andy 51Vic    -- 08-17-2024 @ 12:38 PM
  Here is the actual tag
Hopefully it is clearer.
Thanks all


Kens 36    -- 08-18-2024 @ 6:06 AM
  The "F" indicates that the assembly month was May. Otherwise, no change from the previous comments.

Ken


Andy 51Vic    -- 08-18-2024 @ 1:55 PM
  Thank you again Ken.


Andy 51Vic    -- 09-04-2024 @ 3:56 PM
  Has anyone had a glove box door latch not operate? I went through the book I bought and it doesn't address anything like that. The key works the trunk lock fine but the glove box latch will not turn. I took the latch mechanism out and lubed it up but it did not help. It appears that the lock somehow does not allow the button to be pushed that operates the latch. Any advice??


TomO    -- 09-04-2024 @ 6:01 PM
  The glove box lock or the trunk lock may have been changed. Take the glove box lock and the key to a locksmith, he should be able to determine if the key is correct for the lock and if it is incorrect, change the tumblers in the glove box lock to fit your key.

Tom


Andy 51Vic    -- 09-05-2024 @ 3:11 AM
  Thanks Tom.
I will do that.


Andy 51Vic    -- 09-11-2024 @ 3:24 PM
  No luck with the locksmith. He thinks it is damaged so I will need to go another route. Swap meet time. They are on EBay but rather expensive and I am cheap


nelsb01    -- 09-11-2024 @ 4:53 PM
  Place a free classified ad on this site.
If you can post a picture of the inside of the glove box mechanism -- you should be able to find a complete lock and key, and then take that to locksmith to rekey to fit your key


sarahcecelia    -- 09-11-2024 @ 5:48 PM
  it's on the fire wall, under the hood; passenger side i'm thinking.

Regards, Steve Lee


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