| ibshane | -- 12-26-2017 @ 9:07 AM |
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1937 Ford DeLuxe Touring. V8-85 My fuel system does not have a sediment bowl, screen or filter of any kind. Should I install an In-line fuel filter? If so.., at what location? Thanks!
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| FordFreak | -- 12-26-2017 @ 11:11 AM |
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I always put mine somewhere in the line before the fuel pump . If you don't want it to be seen put it under the car , or in the rear , right at the gas tank . - F F
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| ken ct. | -- 12-26-2017 @ 1:27 PM |
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I like them inbetween the pump and carb,that way you catch any debrie from the pump diaphragm going bad. If looks are not important. There is a brass screen under the top cover on the pump. ken ct
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| ibshane | -- 12-27-2017 @ 4:28 AM |
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Does the brass screen require periodic cleaning or replacement?
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| flathead4rd | -- 12-27-2017 @ 6:49 AM |
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Don't buy one of those with the clear glass and chrome ends. Their about three inches long and an inch in diameter. I've tried two and they both ended up leaking. They look nice but are dangerous. Especially if mounted in the engine compartment.
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| TomO | -- 12-27-2017 @ 8:00 AM |
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The brass screen does not need service, but you should check the sediment bowl for debris once a year. If you see a fine brown powder, you may have rust in your fuel tank and fuel line. If you see black pieces, your flex line may be going. Other chunks could be form a tank sealer failure. Installing a filter is not necessary and I discourage using them. The connections usually leak a little vacuum, making it hard to prime the carburetor, but they can be helpful if your tank is rusting or has been coated and you are getting debris in the carburetor bowl. Tom
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| ibshane | -- 12-27-2017 @ 10:20 PM |
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No rust here..., new Drake gas tank and full engine rebuild about 800 miles ago! I am just still learning about this rig and asking questions as I go. Thanks!
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 12-28-2017 @ 8:39 AM |
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ibshane, it's not only the rust, it's the gasoline also. I have a brand new stainless steel gas tank and all stainless lines in one of my cars. I yearly service the fuel filter and always get some cr*p in the filter assembly. Very much like a fine brown silt. It can only be coming from the fuel.
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| ken ct. | -- 12-28-2017 @ 12:10 PM |
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Ive been using 1 for the past 20 yrs,NO leaks,NO breakage, just wash out the internal filter and put it back in. No problems at all. I also have brand new screens for them and excellent cork gaskets the proper size. ken ct. Their are 2 diff. screens that could be in there.
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| 1934 Ford | -- 12-28-2017 @ 4:24 PM |
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That dark powder may also be from evaporated Ethenol. I run filters on all my cars, just before the fuel pump. 1934 Ford's since 1972
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| ibshane | -- 12-29-2017 @ 5:27 PM |
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I am considering using this inline filter.., mainly because the inlet & outlet are both threaded 1/2"-20 UNF for a good positive seal. It also has a vapor diverter outlet that I will plug. But if sometime down the road I ever start getting vapor lock., I will have the option to use the vapor diverter and run a return line back to the gas tank. This message was edited by ibshane on 12-29-17 @ 5:30 PM
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| ken ct. | -- 12-29-2017 @ 9:21 PM |
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The 1/2x20 threads do NOT seal against leakage. The fitting that goes into the carb or fuel pump must have a coller on the line ahead of the fitting or you use a barbed fitting with a tapered nose on it This is how they seal NOT by the threads. I also see 5+ ' on the gauge as another poster said. way too much. ken ct. .048 jets would be about right for 6'000 elevation. Also 5.5 PV are best. Never cut the spring on them. If you are running a glass bowl pump a paper filter can be added to the bowl no need for a inline one. I have kits to do this. This message was edited by ken ct. on 12-29-17 @ 9:26 PM
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| ibshane | -- 12-29-2017 @ 11:12 PM |
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Ken CT, You lost me at: "I also see 5+ ' on the gauge as another poster said. way too much. ken ct. .048 jets would be about right for 6'000 elevation. Also 5.5 PV are best. Never cut the spring on them. If you are running a glass bowl pump a paper filter can be added to the bowl no need for a inline one. I have kits to do this."
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| TomO | -- 12-30-2017 @ 9:28 AM |
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Ibshane, did you ever hear about the old saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? You car does not have fuel injectors with small orifices that are easily plugged, it does not have a fuel injection pump that can be ruined by the dirt in the fuel and the fuel pump and carburetor will easily tolerate any debris that gets past the fuel filter on the gas pump. Until the 1980s, very few cars had fuel filters and ran well. When fuel injection started appearing on cars, the gas stations added fuel filters to their pumps and manufacturers added them to the cars. My 40 does not have a fuel filter, I took it off because it caused more problems than I had without it. Since removing it and replacing the line from the tank to the firewall, I have not had vapor lock problems or hard starting problems. The glass sediment bowl on my fuel pump did catch some debris when my tank lining failed and again when I bought gas at an off brand station, but neither of them caused a problem with my car. If you intend to keep gas in your tank for more than 1 month, you should add a fuel stabilizer as current fuel is not as stabil as the older fuel. You can add some MMO to the tank every few tankfuls, to help with upper cylinder lubrication. The Ethanol in current fuel does not lobricate the intake valves as well as the fuel used when the car was a current model. Tom
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| ibshane | -- 12-30-2017 @ 1:28 PM |
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Tom O, All good points well taken! I only use pure gasoline in my "37 so thankfully Ethanol is not an issue for me. I have a gas station near by that has Ethanol free gas 24/7-365 in both 87 & 92 octane (I use 87) My '37 fuel pump does not have a sediment bowl so I have no visual of the gas itself or any sediments that might be present. If/when in the future I replace the fuel pump can I..., should I replace it with a pump w/sediment bowl? Thank you for your help!
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| ken ct. | -- 12-30-2017 @ 2:37 PM |
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Yes that would be the way to go with a glass bowl pump, would not be correct for 37 but would solve your problems. I think I have 1 left in stock @ $50 plus $10 shipping. I am retired from rebuilding them but think I have 1 in stock. All USA made parts. Not like the cheap junk coming in from China as new pumps. ken ct.
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| TomO | -- 12-31-2017 @ 9:04 AM |
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If you want your car point judged, get the correct 1936-1940 fuel pump. If your car is going to be shown in Touring class, either the current pump or one with a glass bowl would work. In either case, I would replace the line coming into the fuel pump with the correct line. Your pump has a sediment bowl, just remove the top cover to see the contents. Before you do this, order a couple of gaskets from Ken CT. Tom
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| ken ct. | -- 12-31-2017 @ 11:34 AM |
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That is not a correct pump for a 37 in the firstplace.Thats 41-46 pump. Another thing the gas line fittings look like their bottomed out against the body and will not seal,also get rid of what I think looks like Teflon tape on one of the connections,never use it on gasoline fittings. ken ct. email or cell 1-203-260-9780 // I can explain better on phone.
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| trjford8 | -- 01-01-2018 @ 4:50 PM |
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A big no on Teflon tape or silicone sealer.
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| ibshane | -- 01-02-2018 @ 4:41 PM |
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This is how it was when I bought the rig back in 10/17. I am in the process of eliminating the "Gerry Rigged" stuff as I find it. I recently ordered a OEM flex line from firewall to pump and OEM hard line from pump to carb. Hopefully whoever put that bottomed out fitting in the pump didn't damage the threads or the seat in the pump! Thanks for the help!!
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| thewmon | -- 05-23-2018 @ 11:25 AM |
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Any recommendations for what off the shelf inline filter to buy? I see a few offered from Mac's. One is plastic with a paper type screen that doesn't look that great. How about others?
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| TomO | -- 05-24-2018 @ 7:51 AM |
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The screen in your fuel pump is all the filter that you need. Tom
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| kirkstad | -- 05-24-2018 @ 10:47 AM |
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If you feel the need for an inline filter because of your particular situation,I would go for the NAPA #3031, available over the counter.The disadvantage though,it is all metal and if you had a fuel problem you would have to disconnect it to check if it was the part clogged, but I feel it is safer than plastic.
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| Gallichio | -- 05-26-2018 @ 2:59 PM |
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Hi , I was told not to use the cheap plastic type because they can melt and could cause a fire. use a metal one. Thank you Michael Gallichio
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