Topic: Grille for a 47 Mercury 4dr sedan


deric47merc    -- 11-07-2009 @ 4:17 PM
  Hey all,
This is my first post here! I have recently purchased a 1947 4 door sedan and need some help with a few things. the grille that is on there right now is cracked on the top shroud piece. i found that piece at a local shop where i am from (azusa, ca.) to come home and find out its a little different. oops! the difference is that the one i purchased has holes down the side of it to put some chrome or stainless little lines on it. there is 3 for each side. my current grille does not have that. after doing some research there seems to be two different grilles that one could purchase... with the 3 lines on the sides or not. also i noticed that some grilles seem to have the mercury logo above the top two different ways.. can someone with more knowledge then me explain this to me.. how do i know what grille to put on my car?

Thanks in advance.. Deric


trjford8    -- 11-07-2009 @ 4:56 PM
  Deric, in looking at photos in The V-8 Album, put out by the V-8 Club, there is s difference in the grilles between 46 and 48 Mercs. The 46 was a painted grille surround and had the holes for the short chrome strips down the sides. The 47-48 grille had a chrome grille surround and no strips down the sides. It is also possible that Merc was like Ford after the war. Many 46 parts came on the early 47 cars. It's possible that the grill you purchased was an early 47. You definitely want to replace your grille with one that is like the one on your car.
Hopefully TomO who is the resident Merc guy on the forum will weigh in on this discussion.


This message was edited by trjford8 on 11-7-09 @ 4:59 PM


TomO    -- 11-08-2009 @ 8:49 AM
  The part that you purchased appears to be P/N 59A-8350. It would have been painted body color with 3 chrome strips on each side.

The part on your car would be P/N 6M-8350 and would be chrome plated.

The painted part was use on 1946 cars and early 1947 cars, the chrome plated was used on late 1947 cars and 1948 cars. I don't know the change over date, but it was early in 1947.

The Mercury name plate had a red background on the 46 and early 47 cars. The late 47 and 48 cars had a black background.

I hope that this helps you.

Tom


deric47merc    -- 11-09-2009 @ 9:43 AM
  thanks.. this is very helpful. i guess ill just have to fill the holes on the part that i just purchased. i have another (dumb) question. so, on the dash i have a L knob (lights) and a T knob. the T knob pulls all the way out so i will need to fix that..what is that for? Also, my heater says ford on it, is that right in a Merc?
Thanks


fsacht    -- 11-09-2009 @ 12:53 PM
  T is for throttle. If pulls all the way out means a few inches then stops, that is what it should do.
The engine end connects to the left side of the carburator thottle shaft with a ball connection like that of the choke. One of my Mercury's has an 8BA engine in it and that carb has no throttle attachment. If your distributor is at the right front of the engine that's what you have. If the distributor is on the front face of the block that's what you should have 46 - 48


TomO    -- 11-10-2009 @ 8:04 AM
  I don't remember a Mercury name on the heater in 1947. There were 3 heaters available in 1947, one with 3 doors on the front, a fresh air heater and a third heater with one door in the front and 1 small door on each side.

Which heater do you have?

Tom


deric47merc    -- 11-10-2009 @ 9:28 AM
  Here is a pic...


deric47merc    -- 11-10-2009 @ 9:30 AM
  another pic...


TomO    -- 11-11-2009 @ 7:45 AM
  I don't recognize your heater. It might be from a truck or commercial vehicle manufactured after 1947. I think that the block letters came into use in the 50's.

If you intend to put your car on the concourse for judging, I would get the 41-48 book from the V-8 Club and use it as a guide for a correct restoration.



Tom

This message was edited by TomO on 11-11-09 @ 7:47 AM


deric47merc    -- 11-11-2009 @ 8:46 AM
  Thanks for the info... the description of the book says
"186-page guideline for the 1941-1948 Ford Car" . Does it also cover mercury too?


TomO    -- 11-12-2009 @ 4:31 PM
  No, it does not cover items that are unique to Mercury, such as interior and exterior trim. The main difference between Ford and Mercury in the 41-48 years is chassis length, hood, front fenders, and trim.

Some of the interior trim items are: upholstery materials, dash trim and color, door trim and instruments.

Most mechanical parts are interchangeable. You can use the 1939 though 1948 Mercury Chassis manual for reference. Parts with a 29A, 6M, 7M, or 8M are unique to Mercury. Parts with a 59A prefix can be used on either a Ford or Mercury.

As with all rules pertaining to Ford Motor Company vehicles there are many exceptions.

Tom


TomO    -- 11-13-2009 @ 7:13 AM
  I should have said that the book covers all items that are common to Fords and Mercurys.

Tom


deric47merc    -- 11-13-2009 @ 3:53 PM
  ok.. so if i order it there will be reference pictures of the Merc too?

Thanks


TomO    -- 11-14-2009 @ 8:10 AM
  No, there will be pictures of Fords. The Fords and Mercurys of these years have much in common and the book is a useful tool for restorers of both. The Mercury differences will not be detailed in the book.

Tom


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