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fordmerc |
03-12-2015 @ 5:21 PM
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Unquestionably a '39 Mercury cowl from the outside and unquestionably a '39 Mercury dash (plus 3 holes)
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TomO |
03-07-2015 @ 3:47 PM
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Welcome back. I am still mystified by your vehicle. So far we know that the serial number is for a 46 Ford or Mercury. The dash looks like a 39 Mercury. The door hinges look like 39 Mercury with the top hinge concealed and the bottom hinge exposed when the door is closed. The cowl looks similar to the 39 and 40 Mercury, but the Mercury only has the 2 holes for the trim and the one for the hood bumper, the small hole cold have been drilled, but the larger hole was made by special tooling that raised the area around the hole. The rear window is similar to a 37-40 closed car. The rib around the back of the cab looks like 42-47 cabs. The cowl is wider than the 39 to 47 pickup cab. You say that you cannot see any traces of body work on the inside of the cab. I sure would like to see clear photos of the area above the windshield and all the way back to the back window, including the back window. Do you have a frame? It should have a serial number also. It would be interesting to know if it matched the cowl tag number. I believe that you have a custom and it would be a very nice looking vehicle if the 39 Mercury front clip could be grafted onto it. I doubt that it is a prototype due to the serial number, it is 81597 into the production of the 46 vehicles, if the reported serial numbers are correct. I do not have any records of war time serial numbers by year but there were approximately 110,000 100 HP V-8 engines made during that period. That would seem to include all of the 45 vehicles made.
Tom
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40MercPU |
03-06-2015 @ 10:30 AM
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Back again...I cannot see any cut/weld indicators on the inside of the body. The doors that came with the body (unattached) seem to be sedan and do not fit the body exactly. An inside look at the rear window area does not show any cut/weld indicators either. I probably will begin buying cowl, firewall, and doorpost replacement sheet metal as available for one of the sedans and work my way forward, modifying as I go. Not the cheapest way but in essence I would have a truck body connected to a sedan front clip.
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trjford8 |
12-24-2014 @ 5:09 PM
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I think the "cracks" in the belt line are actually big paint chips covered by primer. I do see the file marks just above the door opening. Lead was used in a lot of places including the upper roof corners of the pickups.
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rustynutt |
12-24-2014 @ 1:29 PM
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I have to believe it's an altered 39 Mercury sedan. If you enlarge the pictures and scroll around the doors and along belt line you can see cracks and file marks in the body work. The patch work should be obvious from the inside.
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49fordv8f4 |
12-20-2014 @ 8:29 AM
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The belt line under the window looks similar to a '40-'47 cab, but it looks too pronounced. Could this be a prototype cab? Mark
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trjford8 |
12-20-2014 @ 8:25 AM
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TomO, I agree that we should have photos of the doors. The rib in the back of the cab should follow through on the doors. It does not follow through on the cowl, but maybe there was cowl trim(indicated by the two bolt holes) that matched to the rib on the doors?
This message was edited by trjford8 on 12-20-14 @ 8:28 AM
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TomO |
12-20-2014 @ 8:21 AM
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I agree that if it is a custom, someone did a great job. I have searched the web and have not come up with any similar vehicle. I think that the rear window could have been added to the body along the character lines as shown in the attachment. The cowl is similar to the 39/40 Mercury cowl, but has some extra holes that look factory. The door hinges and hood hinges look like the 39/40 Merc, the hood character line also fits the car better than a truck. The doors and roof are another mystery. I would like to see a photo of the doors.
Tom
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trjford8 |
12-19-2014 @ 5:45 PM
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I took a second look at the door hinges on the body and they appear to be '41 passenger car hinges. This gets more interesting all the time. I was thinking at first that someone took a 4 door Merc sedan and removed the center section of the body to make a pickup. The baffling part is the center rib that is stamped into the cab. If this body was a hand fabricated custom someone did one heck of a job.
This message was edited by trjford8 on 12-19-14 @ 5:50 PM
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unclemark |
12-18-2014 @ 5:28 PM
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Not a 40-41 cab, floor is incorrect, hinges in door posts are not 40-41. There is one photo that shows a faded out F-1 possibly but that may be an illusion due to paint and such.
41 panel & 41 1.5 platform
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