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MrPhat40

10-29-2014 @ 12:49 PM

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Dear Early Ford V8ers,
About 10 years ago I purchased what I thought to be a 1940 Ford Deluxe coupe. The car was hot rodded as that is what I was looking for. The windshield in the car is from a 1938-39 but I thought that to be a custom touch.
Recently the windshield cracked and I am in the process of replacing the glass.
What I have uncovered is the body actually appears to be a 1939. It has provision for the roof mounted windshield wipers, has the attachment points for the 39 windshield frame, and the hood attachment is definitely of 1939 engineering.
What is very curious is the s/n is from the 1940 sequence (#18 5,42x,xxx). The car does have the earlier 1940 dash as evidenced by the manner the ash trays open: push in and they move up. The car also had correctly placed cowl mounted windshield wipers. The door glass channels also seem to be correct for a 1940.
With that back ground my question:

Is it even remotely possible Ford used a left over 1939 coupe body on a run of 1940 cars?

Thank you for any responses and or information.
Sincerely yours,
Al Seidel

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10-29-2014 @ 6:01 PM

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If it is a '39 body with a '40 dash someone had to go to great pains to make it fit. The '40 dash was not designed to go with the opening windshield. Was the '39 windshield "fixed" to the body?
The '40 serial number does not mean much as the body could've been placed on a '40 frame sometime during it's life. The '40 doors will fit the '39 body so they could've also been changed.
It sounds as if someone made one car out of two and used the best parts from both.

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10-30-2014 @ 9:12 AM

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Dear Triford 8,
Thank you for the reply.
The upper attachment points or hinges to allow the windshield to swing out are present. The mechanism to move the windshield in/out is not there. The lower attachment points of the windshield were secured to the dash using the defroster vents as pass thoughts. Two #10-32 machine screws and large fender washers in two of the lower windshield mounting points were used to secure the base of the 39 windshield to the inside of the body.
Whoever did this conversion also took the time to layout the openings for the cowl mounted windshield wipers. The wipers actually do a very good job. I understand the concept of two to make one, just seems like a lot of effort to turn a 39 into a 40 and a deluxe at that.

So no way Ford would have done it right?

Lastly any tips on sealing the 39 windshield frame or do they ALL just LEAK???
Appreciate the thoughts.
MrPhat 40
Al Seidel

kubes40

10-30-2014 @ 11:01 AM

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MrPhat40,
Those of us that have been in these cars, not just 'around" them know not to say "never".
Still, what you are describing seems to be a stretch to believe Ford did something like this.
heck, I had a friend, quite a bit older INSIST that he had a '40 convertible with a rumble seat. After he finally found the pictures, it was quite obvious it was a 39 with a 40 front clip, dash and side shift trans.
One must remember that (especially) after WWII cars were scarce and putting something like what you describe was commonplace.

RE: Windshield leak. No, they do not all leak. A proper installation of a high quality seal is necessary. This is not a fun job but can be performed by anyone with some mechanical ability and a LOT of patience.

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10-30-2014 @ 11:38 AM

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Mike, I believe the South Africa assembly plant produced a '40 Convertible with rumbleseat. Oddities abound in locations outside the States.

Alan

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10-30-2014 @ 1:45 PM

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Dear Kubes40
Thank you for your reply and the information.

As to the windshield installation, I bought a Drake 39 windshield seal, so I hope that is of quality you speak.
Regarding patience, so far my car has tried them regularly so what is a little more frustration. At least I do not have to have the car for work on Monday.

Knowing it is possible to install a seal and have it be leak free gives me hope. The fellow before me used a LOT of urethane. That can be trying unto itself.

Again I really appreciate eh knowledge and candor this Forum brings.

Sincerely yours
MrPhat40
Al Seidel

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