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jim5618 |
11-04-2010 @ 4:15 PM
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WOW! got my Lebaron catalog today. I thought this was going to be a difficult process to find things. I can't wait to get started. I will post shots once we get the car out of the barn... no really, it is in the neighbors barn. I guess that makes it a barn find...
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CharlieStephens |
11-05-2010 @ 10:10 AM
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Jim, There is one question you will need to face soon. I bring this up since in your last post you said you just got your Lebaron catalogue and you should have the answer in you head as you read the catalogue. Regardless of what you decide you need to make this decision early. Do you want to restore your car as a standard or a deluxe? I like to see them restored as they came from the factory although the deluxe looks a little more “deluxe”. You will spend a little more money changing to a deluxe (which was very common when the cars were “restored” in the seventies). A standard car stands out more since most cars were changed to deluxe when they were "restored" in the past. The main things that come to mind are different upholstery choices (including carpets versus rubber mats on the floor), paint versus wood grain (be sure to price wood graining if you don’t intend to do it yourself, probably about $800) for the interior dash and garnish. Cowl lights and single bulb headlight reflectors on the deluxe (although they were an option on the standard cars). Oval dome light on the deluxe versus round on the standard. There is a good table on page 11-29 of the club’s book with a lot of other small items. Charlie Stephens
This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 11-5-10 @ 10:11 AM
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jim5618 |
11-05-2010 @ 7:51 PM
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Charlie, I agree to your way of thinking. I want the car to look like it did when it was new. It will be restored as a standard. I was wondering what the dash was supposed to be (my book isn't here yet).
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CharlieStephens |
11-06-2010 @ 9:01 AM
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Jim, I looked through "The 1932 Ford Book" a couple of times and couldn't find the information. I am sure it is in there somewhere (help Dave). "The 1932 Ford Judging and Restoration Standards" that Dave Rehor wrote and the club published in 1982 state that "The dash and window moldings on all standard cars were painted interior gray (taupe); these components were woodgrained on all deluxe cars..." This is the finish you will probably find in your car (maybe under a couple of layers of paint). Charlie Stephens
This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 11-6-10 @ 9:04 AM
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11-07-2010 @ 7:35 PM
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Jim (and Charlie), There are three color photos of 'interior gray' dashes in the book, but as I'm traveling I can't give you the specific page numbers for the photos and the text reference to this finish. Dave
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jim5618 |
11-12-2010 @ 10:53 AM
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Got the book and did find it. I was worried it would be a more difficult wood grained look. Is there any feature of this car that was only made for 6 Months? I racall my uncle at one point mentioning it was rare a)because a lot were cut up, but I thought he said there was something about the fuel pump or oil pump that was only done for 6 months? I went through the book and I wonder if he was refering to the fact that they didn't start selling them till mid year waiting for the V-8's. Just curious as i didn't see anything in the book that matched up to his recollection (which was probably third hand anyway).
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CharlieStephens |
11-12-2010 @ 12:31 PM
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Jim, I am not sure I understand your question. The cars were rare because of low production (due to depression) and the fact that a lot of them were cut up. I can't remember anything special about the fuel pump or the oil pump. I wonder if it had something to do with the fact that a Model A did not have a fuel pump which would make the engine rare compared to a Model A. Charlie Stephens
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11-12-2010 @ 6:12 PM
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Jim, In looking back at the photos that you supplied, I am curious about a couple of interior items in the car. Does it have armrests (or the remnants thereof) in the rear compartment? Where in the ceiling is the dome lamp located and what is its exterior shape (round or oval)? Are there assist straps on the inside of the 'B' pillars inside the car? Is there any evidence that the car once had cowl lamps? I ask these as what's left of the finish on the dash and window garnish mouldings is pretty dark, darker than most original pieces that were originally painted 'interior gray'. Thanks. Dave P.S. Your car has the later dash and door window garnish mouldings, but still has the early type of starter switch control (on the steering column bracket attached to the lower edge of the dash). That tends to suggest that it is a middle-of-the-(production) year car and free of some the rare and unique items associated with very early and very late production '32 model vehicles.
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jim5618 |
11-18-2010 @ 6:41 PM
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Sorry for the slow response, this has been a maddeningly slow process. The car is in western Mass where I grew up. I have arranged for the purchase from my cousin and am waiting for my 73 year old dad to go get it and bring it to his house (where he has a nice big metal building to store it in). As soon as he gets it I will hopefully get lots of pictures of it. I am going up for a week around christmas and we will (using proper preparation and precautions) try to get it running. This was not a planned purchase, more of a "do you want it before we sell it for next to nothing" deal. Good deal but now I need to figure out where to work on it and how to get it to maryland (where I only have a carport to keep it in). Fun fun fun
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11-18-2010 @ 7:21 PM
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Jim, the old car hobby is something you build your life around. A carport is absolutely not the way to go. You must have secure storage from the weather and from theft, and enough indoor room to work. Your car appears to have been protected from the weather all these years so far, and now you will become its caretaker, and I'm sure you don't want to muff it!
Alan
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