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46coupe |
09-16-2021 @ 12:07 PM
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I just picked up the shackles and spring bolt from Carpenters. we'll try to get those mounted in the next few days. The mechanic helping me can only work on it when he has some time. In case the new shackles don't allow the use of the track bar I have, does anyone have one they would sell or can anyone point me to some vendor who might have one? Thanks again for all your help
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46coupe |
09-16-2021 @ 4:31 PM
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Does anyone have the center to center measurement for this rear track bar on page 130 in the green book?? I sure would appreciate it since we are going to straighten the one I have while I try to find one for sale or a vendor has one for sale. Those who have an original one on the car could you get the measurement for me of the bar, not the measurement from mounting point to mounting point. I need to have the measurement so it includes the bend. Thanks everyone Brad
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46coupe |
09-17-2021 @ 3:48 PM
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I hope someone has a measurement for the track bar or can tell me where I might find the information on one. While I was under the car I thought I would check the through bolt location on the rear spring since I just bought a new bolt yesterday. I found that there was no bolt , no hole for a bolt and where the bolt comes out at the bottom of the spring there is a grease fitting. Interesting. Does anyone have any thoughts about this? I didn't feel any indication that there ever was a hole there. Hopefully the mystery will get solved.
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51woodie |
09-17-2021 @ 7:27 PM
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46Coupe. I’m a little puzzled with your post, saying there is no spring through bolt, but there is a grease fitting. The fourth of your pictures shows the bolt through the spring. The grease fitting screws into the end of the bolt. Maybe I just read the posts too quick.
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40cpe |
09-17-2021 @ 8:00 PM
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46 coupe, the tie bolt has a square head at the top end. It fits in a square hole in the cross member. If you don't feel it, there is a good chance the bolt is in the proper position. Maybe there is grease, dirt, grime around the bolt head so you don't feel it. Have you tried cleaning the area and looking with an inspection mirror?
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42wagon |
09-18-2021 @ 3:39 AM
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There is something terribly wrong with the spring setup for your car. Its those homemade spring shackles. From the pictures the spring is properly centered and has not shifted sideways. You will probably find the square bolt head in the square hole in the frame. The top of it will be flush with the top of the frame Yet it appears that the shackles are long enough for the car to have bounced and the shackle reversed itself. As shown in the picture the car should be leaning to one side if you look at it from the rear. I doubt anything is wrong with the track bar. Replace the shackles with the correct ones and your problem should be solved.
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46coupe |
09-18-2021 @ 4:29 AM
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Thanks so much for the responses. I'll recheck for the thru bolt again. However I did push down on the mount for any type of bolt head that might be flush. Doesn't hurt to check again. I hope you are correct about the bent shackles as my mechanic feels that putting in the correct ones will only help a little. He thinks the bar that is mounted right now might have bent further because it doesn't match the pic on page 130 in the green book. IF I do need a track bar do any of you know where I might check to buy one? Or do any of you have one that you can measure for me?
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TomO |
09-18-2021 @ 9:03 AM
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You should not rely on the drawings in the Chassis Parts Catalog for a good description of a part. They are just put in the catalog to help identify a part. You may be able to get the engineering drawing that has the specifications for the part from The Henry Ford archives.
Tom
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46coupe |
09-19-2021 @ 1:17 PM
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Finally had time to get under the car and take a couple of pics of the top of the spring assy. They aren't too good as it was difficult trying to align the camera. It looks like a hole is there in one of the shots and the other shot just shows the same texture across the flat. I could not feel any depression in the metal. I also don't see where it would have mounted on the body. If the bolt is missing could not the grease fitting on the bottom been threaded into the hole? I'll try to call the archives tomorrow for help on the track bar.
This message was edited by 46coupe on 9-20-21 @ 2:43 AM
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TomO |
09-20-2021 @ 7:52 AM
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I would not worry too much about the spring tie bolt being in the center hole in the frame until you remove the shackle bars and let the spring and rear axle assembly resume their normal position. From the photos that you have posted, it is unlikely that the spring is not in position, the tie bolt looks like it is centered between the U-bolts. Once you have the rear end in position, you can get a better idea about the spring being shifted. Your situation seems to have been caused by the long and incorrectly made shackle bars and the car driven at a high speed over a large pothole or curb like surface that forced the rear end out of position. You don't need the sway bar to drive the car, so after you replace the shackle bars and the broken shock arm you will be able to tell if the sway bar is bent. Then you can search for a good used one from one of the antique car recyclers.
Tom
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