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EFV-8 Club Forum / 1940 Ford Discussion / '40 Waltham Speedometer

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Carcheologist
03-18-2022 @ 7:23 PM
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Found what appears to be an NOS Waltham speedo for '40 today at Chickasha Swap Meet. No visible signs of ever being installed but its original box was not present and the face plate shows signs of rough treatment along with a broken/bent needle. A couple of questions...

1). Does anyone know where I could find a nice looking or possible new face plate and needle for the Waltham model?
2). Is there any special rarity to the Waltham model as opposed to the Stewart-Warner unit?
3). Does the Waltham use a different speedo cable than the S-W?

Thanks for feedback,
Carcheologist


40 Coupe
03-19-2022 @ 4:49 AM
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I believe the face plate is reproduced but am not sure if it is for the Waltham. Many sign shops can make new covers for the original face plate, it is best to find a shop that has already done this since they store the info on their computers. You will have to either find a NOS Waltham pointer or find another Waltham speedo and remove the pointer, the SW pointer is different. The Speed0 cables are alike.

Carcheologist
03-19-2022 @ 7:16 AM
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Thanks very much for helpful the info!

kubes40
03-19-2022 @ 9:43 AM
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The Waltham speedometer assembly is not as common as the SW. However, it isn't exactly rare either.
Value? No real difference than the SW. In fact, the only monetary difference would be with a unit like yours, in need of a face and needle. That would make it worth less than a SW in identical condition for the simple fact the pieces you need are very rare.
During my research, I found that the two manufacturers that supplied units to Ford were apparently mixed in production and assembly plants without any rhyme or reason.

The face plates have never been reproduced.

Speedometer cables are not respective to speedometer manufacturer.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth

Carcheologist
03-19-2022 @ 4:15 PM
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Thanks Kube, I knew I could count on your expert analysis! Had a disappointing moment today when trying to pry the speed indicator needle off its shaft. Well, it came off, but took the end of its shaft too.
At least I have a good parts unit if anyone needs them.
Thanks again.
Carcheologist

trjford8
03-21-2022 @ 7:36 AM
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Right now there is a new speedometer face for sale on e-Bay. It does not say if it is for Walthem or S W.

fortyford
03-22-2022 @ 4:45 AM
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Bob Drake has metal face plates.I used a set worked great.I am not sure if these will interchange.
https://bobdrake.com/products/1940-deluxe-gauge-face-kit?_pos=1&_sid=572cefbc1&_ss=r

kubes40
03-22-2022 @ 5:24 AM
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fotyford, Drakes won't fit the Waltham speedometer.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth

fortyford
03-22-2022 @ 5:30 AM
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Ok,thanks Kube,I was not sure if they would work on not.

Carcheologist
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Thanks, guys for all the helpful feedback.

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