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Posted By Discussion Topic: How to remove the upper hinge pins on my 1940 car? -- page: 1 2 3     Larry48 03-28-2020 @ 6:19 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 19 Joined: Jul 2019 I had m son-in-law make it for me. Where are you located? I tried all those things you tried with no luck. I had my pin out in less than an hour with this tool and you don't have to worry about messing up the paint. kubes40 03-29-2020 @ 5:24 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3366 Joined: Oct 2009 Just now noticed the question from Tom1940... to answer it... NO, hinge pin mirrors are never correct in 1940. In fact the "swan neck" mirror that attaches to the cowl in place of the stainless trim was available only for the left side until May, 1940 when a right side mirror was released for consumer consumption. Mike "Kube" Kubarth fortyford 03-30-2020 @ 4:29 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 206 Joined: Nov 2009 Of course we all know how useless the right side swan neck mirror is! kubes40 03-30-2020 @ 6:50 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3366 Joined: Oct 2009 I tend to believe the right mirror was (eventually) introduced for two reasons 1) profit and 2) esthetics. Mike "Kube" Kubarth 39 Ken 03-30-2020 @ 8:50 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 380 Joined: Oct 2009 Hey Kube, Didja ever notice that the 1940 Swan neck mirror design almost perfectly matches the trim design of the 1939 Deluxe and not the trim of the '40? I've wondered if that swan neck mirror was designed to go on the '39 Deluxe but arrived too late and Ford decided to use it on the '40. Ken kubes40 03-30-2020 @ 3:03 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3366 Joined: Oct 2009 Ken, Your theory may have some merit. However, as simply a point of discussion, I'd disagree. In my humble opinion, there was already a hinge pin mirror in 1939 so there was no "need" for a different type of mirror. 1940 saw what Ford described as a "new" design. that is arguable but hey, that's what Ford called it. So, a different and perhaps less arguably, a much nicer looking mirror was introduced. The right side mirror? Being introduced near the end of 1940 production, I can see no other reason than an attempt to satisfy some folks sense of aesthetics. Being useless, I ask you, what other possible reasoning was there for the right mirror? Mike "Kube" Kubarth 37RAGTOPMAN 03-31-2020 @ 2:55 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1940 Joined: Oct 2009 you could VERY CAREFULY, drill or cut the top of the pin off and drive the pin down,? the pin should not be too hard of steel if it does not move, I would go to this option, before you ruin something, even drilling the pin out is a option, did you try a heat gun, not to so hot the paint does not blister, just use real good AMERICAN made drills , starting small and work bigger in many steps, hope this helps 1937Ragtopman This message was edited by 37RAGTOPMAN on 4-1-20 @ 8:44 AM kubes40 03-31-2020 @ 5:07 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3366 Joined: Oct 2009 If the pin doesn't want to move with a puller, I'd be very apprehensive to smack it with a hammer. You will with little doubt bend the hinge thus creating door alignment issues. If the pin is worn (most likely) it'll take more than the cheapo Drake pin removal tool. It may require drilling. Might I dare suggest you install the proper "swan neck" mirror? Mike "Kube" Kubarth 39 Ken 04-01-2020 @ 6:19 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 380 Joined: Oct 2009 Mike, Just to add to the discussion, let me try to flesh out my theory. This only pertains to my original thought about the left side mirror. I agree completely with your comment about the right side mirror. The hinge pin mirror used on the 1938 and 1939 was available as an accessory had a part number 48-18403. Nomenclature numbers starting with "48" indicates an availability from 1935. Now, with that part being available since the '35 cars, I think that someone in the design department must have been thinking of changing it for some time, just as they design cars a "couple" of years in advance. The 1938 design rolls around, the car is significantly different than the '35 and '36 so a design engineer comes up with a beautiful "swan neck" outside mirror to go on the '39 (possibly the '38) which matches the shape of the stainless trim and compliments the flow. The supply of the "hinge pin mirror" is abundant since it has been around a while and the plan was to continue using them until the supply runs out. So the bean counters put a temporary hold on introduction of the "swan". Unfortunately, production figures for '38 and '39 are way down from previous years so the swan neck mirror, although already in production is put off until the introduction of the 1940 model year. The small problem to my eye, is that the swan neck looks out of place with the completely different exterior trim on the '40. I know, this is all pure speculation on my part but it is all part of the enjoyment of being around these cars. Apology to Steve Lee for jumping on his thread but it does mention the "hinge pin mirror". Ken kubes40 04-01-2020 @ 7:51 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3366 Joined: Oct 2009 Ken, Once again, I must state that you pose a good theory. Aesthetics, being in the eye of the beholder will always cause a discussion as to which year the swan "should've" been introduced for. Where there can be no argument is the fact the "swan neck" mirror was released for inclusion of the 1940 Ford passenger car model year. Simultaneously, the passenger car hinge pin mirror was eliminated... Mike "Kube" Kubarth

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