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Posted By Discussion Topic: My “40” VIN. Dilemma -- page: 1 2     thunder road 03-23-2018 @ 9:33 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Here is a picture of the VIN. stamping on my 1940 Ford frame. Also my NY registration sticker. As you can see somewhere along the line of the previous owners the prefix of the VIN. has been mistakenly changed to a" 6" instead of an" 8". This is why it would be very helpful if the new 1940 Ford book has a page showing the three different prefix’s that were used in 1940. It would make it helpful for me, and others with similar problems to help to get the VIN. numbers corrected. There was never a 1940 Ford built with a prefix No. of " 16". The only three different prefix’s used in 1940 were" 18" which = 85 H.P. this one being the most common one used. Next “54” = 60 H.P. Lastly the third prefix that was used was “99” which = 95 H.P. this was the Mercury engine, and was very rare. Domenic This message was edited by thunder road on 3-23-18 @ 9:44 AM 40 Coupe 03-23-2018 @ 12:04 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1711 Joined: Oct 2009 In Ohio there are a couple of ways to have a title corrected: Take the title to the BMV and they can search for previous paper work to see when a number was typo changed. Take the title and the vehicle to the highway patrol office and they can inspect and issue a form to have the title corrected. Mac VanPelt has a fine book regarding the rebuilding of the early V8 transmission where the numbers are covered, they MAY also be on his web site??? There were about 155,000 Mercury 90HP produced in 1940 thunder road 03-23-2018 @ 3:57 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Hey 40 coupe thanks for your input. In NY state, cars built before 1973 do not have titles, just transferable registrations. On Monday I am going to contact the trooper's office to get their help. I am glad that technically ,the mistake is in the prefix, and not in the sequential number, and that enough of my frame stamping exists . if they want to see the car in person they are going to have to wait until the April showers wash away all the salt on these N.Y. salted roads. Lastly I read somewhere that the prefix was only stamped on the front frame stamping location, and not on the middle, or rear frame stamping locations. Did they stamp the prefix on the transmission stamping location? Domenic This message was edited by thunder road on 3-23-18 @ 4:08 PM TomO 03-24-2018 @ 7:29 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7286 Joined: Oct 2009 Yes, the full serial number, including the prefix, should be stamped on the transmission. But, remember that transmissions were often changed, when a gear broke, when these cars were in daily use. Tom kubes40 03-24-2018 @ 7:32 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3445 Joined: Oct 2009 Domenic, The frame was stamped in three places. Typically, the two places beneath the body did not include the prefix but rather, only the sequential (serial) number. As Tom has correctly pointed out, the transmission WAS the serial number of the car. However, just as he has also stated, transmissions were more often than not swapped out. Of all the cars I've owned, only a handful had a matching transmission case. Mike "Kube" Kubarth thunder road 03-24-2018 @ 10:00 AM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Hey Tom, and Mike this sounds like great news! If this information is intact on the transmission, it will help me greatly to correct the mistake in my vin. The car is an honest 44,650 mile car in every aspect that I have been able to check out so far. Stuff like totally original interior , original firewall insulation pad in mint condition, original saturated felt in the rear tail pan, original trunk mat. The motor , and engine bay looks to me like it's never been out, also the dated receipt's, and paper work that came with the car. Can you guys tell me where to look for the vin. on the transmission? Was the pre-fix included on the transmission stamping? P.S. the temp sender in my car look's like the end of it is tapped and the wire attaches to it, with a flat head screw, thanks Domenic This message was edited by thunder road on 3-24-18 @ 10:12 AM 40 Coupe 03-24-2018 @ 10:41 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 1711 Joined: Oct 2009 Stop by the local highway patrol office and see if the procedure in Ohio is the same as in NY. They may also require an appointment to inspect the serial number. thunder road 03-24-2018 @ 3:39 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Hey Tom, and Mike, and 40 coupe, that's great news that they did stamp the prefix's on the transmission's! Can you guy's tell me approx. where on the transmission I should look. I remember when you guy's told me where to look for the rear end ratio, if I had not asked I would probably still be out their in the garage under that thing still looking, thank a lot for the help. Domenic This message was edited by thunder road on 3-24-18 @ 3:40 PM TomO 03-25-2018 @ 1:03 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7286 Joined: Oct 2009 Your serial number location question was answered in another post. You have to remove the floor boards in order to see it. It sound like you have the correct heat sending unit. Post a photo to be sure. Tom thunder road 03-25-2018 @ 7:02 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 212 Joined: Dec 2016 Tom , you mean the transmission cover right? Buy the looks of Charlie's picture I would say so. Thiers a real good chance that it is original to the car, I will get some pictures of it, and the temp sender too. thank you Domenic

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