| nelsb01 | -- 09-17-2021 @ 9:09 PM |
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Out for a nice drive tonight and once home shut the 1949 off to open the garage door. Turned the key on, pushed the clutch petal in, and hit the starter button --- and all I could hear was whir. I take it that the bendix is stuck in the retract position. Any hints or do I have to pull the starter. Great thing about old Fords -- you can always push them and pop the clutch in second gear.
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| ford38v8 | -- 09-17-2021 @ 11:30 PM |
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Give it an attutude adjustment with a BFH. Easy fix unless the spring is broken. Alan
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| sarahcecelia | -- 09-18-2021 @ 7:00 AM |
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PULL THE STARTER!! I had that happen once on one of my 1950 cars; I pulled the starter; and lubed the spiral on the shaft that engages the gear, with the the flywheel. Put the starter back on; Bingo; it worked! If the spring is broken it's an easy fix; undo the tabs on the two lock nuts , take those short bolts out, put the new spring on, install the two bolts, and bend the tabs down to keep them from loosening, and re- install the Starter motor. Regards, Steve Lee This message was edited by sarahcecelia on 9-18-21 @ 7:08 AM
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| nelsb01 | -- 09-18-2021 @ 8:20 AM |
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Thanks guys. Both suggestions were also made by local 'mechanics' Thinking that the removal is the way to go, just to check it out, and since it is 'almost' storage time here in the frozen north, checking it out will make for a much better spring (no pun) driving time.
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| TomO | -- 09-18-2021 @ 8:53 AM |
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While you have it out, check the rear bushing and brushes. If you feel any wear in the rear bushing, have the starter rebuilt. With a Rouge car, you have no idea when the starer was last serviced, so it is a good idea to check it out. I wish that I had checked out mine before the drive to Auburn in 2019. I hadn't checked it since 1980 and it failed on me at Auburn. Tom
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| nelsb01 | -- 09-18-2021 @ 10:45 AM |
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It is out. The generator rebuilder is closed for the weekend, so first thing on Monday. Heard that I need to check my parts shelves if it is the bendix as the new ones are not reliable. Spring is not broken, but may have some excess lubrication and dirt. You are right Tom -- the starter is the original one. About 31000 miles on it when engine out, and now there is 56000. When the engine was rebuilt, I just cleaned it and slapped it in. By the way, it is a lot easier to install when the engine is out. This message was edited by nelsb01 on 9-18-21 @ 10:45 AM
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| 51woodie | -- 09-18-2021 @ 12:30 PM |
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Which is the correct for servicing the spiral? Some say lube it, and some say don’t. When I asked the “old fellow” in the shop why they hadn’t lubed the spiral, he said, “the lube will collect dirt and eventually it will jam up”. My starter is still working after three years and lots of starts.
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| kubes40 | -- 09-18-2021 @ 12:46 PM |
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Lube will in fact collect debris. Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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| 51504bat | -- 09-18-2021 @ 3:24 PM |
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If you want to replace just the spring Mike at Third Gen is currently listing them on EBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/351934893338 He also lists USA made original style Bendix's as well on his web site. https://thirdgenauto.com/ Vanpelt sales also lists USA made ones. http://www.vanpeltsales.com/ Last one I bought was a USA made one from Joe's Antique Auto. https://www.joesantiqueauto.com/ ______________ No signature
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| 37RAGTOPMAN | -- 09-19-2021 @ 8:11 AM |
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hi CERTIFIED AUTO ELECTRIC did have NOS complete starter BENDIX'S I bought one last years, WORKS GREAT, also have high torque field coils, for that extra boost, JEFF or EARL 440 439 1100 6vto12v@gmail.com HOPE this helps 37Ragtopman
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| nelsb01 | -- 09-20-2021 @ 6:38 AM |
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So, here is what happened. Dirty - yes, but the cover washer (I think that is what it is called) that is attached to the slide gear broke off. So, the generator repair is going to clean, check bushings and replace the gear with one that I have on the shelf. Bad news is that he is more than 2 weeks booked. And he agreed that the current replacement parts are not up to par. Thanks again for all your responses. This message was edited by nelsb01 on 9-20-21 @ 9:44 AM
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| 1942deluxe | -- 09-20-2021 @ 2:57 PM |
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I feel your pain. Sunday our 1930 Model A was making the whirr sound and not starting, pulled the starter and found a broken spring. Go over to F.I.L.'s other garage and find two Model A starters. First one has a broken starter spring. Second one has complete drive and spring in decent shape. Haven't changed one in 20 years. With some effort the mission was a success .Was at the Canfield swap meet and saw 2 NOS Model A starter springs. Didn't buy them because I thought I didn't need them....
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