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classicgen
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 11:13 AM
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Hello, my name is Ken and I am new to this group. I have recently inherited a 36 that was in the process of restoration years ago. From what I understand there are 3 places where the serial number was stamped into the frame...?? Is this how Ford did it then, no ID tag? My 62 Fairlane has the tag on the door so just wondering. What will the serial number tell me and how do I find out the original paint color? Sorry for all the questions. I do have the model number but dont think that tells me much. Thanks in advance for any help.
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kubes40
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 12:50 PM
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The engine and transmission were mated to one another and sent to one of the many assembly plants for eventual installation in to a vehicle.
When the engine and trans. were mated, a tag was wired to the engine with the serial number. The number was stamped in to the bell housing (transmission) on a flat boss just above the clutch inspection cover.
When this assembly was installed to a chassis, a workman would hand stamp, yes, hand stamp, the number on the tag in to the frame in three places.
That number told you only the sequential number of the engine / trans. and nothing else.
No where on your car are there any numbers that would tell you color, interior, etc. - nothing.
Unfortunately, and nearly always, the transmission has been replaced at one time or another and the number on the trans. rarely matches the frame.
To find the original color, you may look on the inside of a door, behind the rumble seat cushion, and on occasion, behind the instrument panel.
If the car has been properly stripped for new paint, those places are surely eradicated.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
This message was edited by kubes40 on 9-15-20 @ 12:51 PM
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classicgen
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 1:30 PM
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Thanks for the info I really appreciate it. My uncle purchased this car in 57. Unless someone changed out trans etc. prior to that then its still original. Will have to do some numbers searching now. There is a model number of 18-2282641...is this what would have been on the Body tag on the firewall? Any significance to that number? Thanks again, really appreciate it.
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3w2
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 1:59 PM
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The model number you have is not a Ford model number for the '36s. The Ford model number for a '36 roadster was 68-710 and your number is far too long to be a serialized body number as there were only 3,028 '36 roadsters produced domestically. Originally, there was both a patent plate and a body number on the right side of the firewall (looking forward). The body number tag was 7/8" x 2 1/2" in size and would normally begin with a printed 710 followed by the capital letters LB and then a stamped number of from one to four digits designating the order in which it was built in the sequence of all the '36 roadster bodies. If that little body number plate is missing, you'll have no idea what the body number is except that it will range from 1 to 3028. A long shot would be if the car was originally built in Canada and then the odds are good that the body number was stamped directly into the sheet metal of the firewall in between the two little holes intended for the attachment of a body number plate (on the right side of the firewall), However, if that is the case, it will be a unique-to-Canadian production and is not a part of the U.S. series of body numbers.
You are correct about the engine number being stamped on the chassis frame in three places, however two of those locations are hidden from view underneath the body. The only one visible in on top of the left frame rail just forward of where the body cowl is attached to the frame.
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nelsb01
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 2:06 PM
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Others have added much more than I can
This message was edited by nelsb01 on 9-15-20 @ 2:10 PM
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classicgen
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 2:10 PM
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OK, thanks again. Yes, that body tag was taken off when he started working on the car about 12 years ago. Have not found it yet. That model number was just listed on the paper from when he financed it back in 57 for $150.00....thought maybe it was the model number for that body tag.
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kubes40
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 2:50 PM
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Classicgen, The number you'd referenced in a previous post is the serial number.
1936 serial numbers range between 18-2207111 and 18-3331856.
It looks like your engine / trans. were put together in October, 1935.
I have attached a photo of my '36 roadster. One car that's been on my bucket list before I even knew what a bucket list was 
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
This message was edited by kubes40 on 9-15-20 @ 5:50 PM
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kubes40
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 2:52 PM
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Here's a photo of the body tag as well as the patent plate. The body tag, as others have stated records the model and the sequential build.
The body tag is the upper of the two...
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
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classicgen
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 3:27 PM
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Sorry only photos I have at the moment and no I’m not sure of anything on this car yet. Lol. Was just always told it’s the 36. We have the title but are searching for it. No door windows or cranks for what thats worth.
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3w2
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 4:51 PM
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It looks to be in great shape. You are indeed very fortunate as it is a very desirable car. I had one once, but the reality of space constraints and competing projects ended up my having to send it down the road. Not that I am unhappy with my '36 phaeton.
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kubes40
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 5:29 PM
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Yep, that's a '36 roadster all right. Good for you! Very cool that your Pop financed it for $150 way back in '57! I enjoy a little personal history that on occasion goes with these cars.
Looks like a VERY nice car.
Mike "Kube" Kubarth
This message was edited by kubes40 on 9-15-20 @ 5:53 PM
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classicgen
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-- 09-15-2020 @ 6:23 PM
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Found the number on the transmission but will be a few weeks before I can get back to the car. 7HC-15060. Im sure over the years things have been swapped out. When I first went with my Aunt to go look at the car I was under the impression it had no motor and was all apart. I was happy to find it with body work done, frame, suspension, brakes etc. done. I found that there is still an old motor in the car for some reason and another on the stand that Im assuming he was building to go back in. I will post some pictures of the motor on the stand and like the car I know little about it.
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v8er
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-- 09-16-2020 @ 7:32 AM
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If you post your location, there might be a V8 Club member close by who could go over the car with you and answer your questions. Since the car is disassembled, they could show where loose parts are attached and help you make a list of parts that are missing.
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trjford8
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-- 09-16-2020 @ 8:23 AM
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The engine on the stand has some very rare speed equipment. It looks like your uncle was building a very early hot rod. I think you inherited a real gem.
This message was edited by trjford8 on 9-16-20 @ 8:24 AM
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classicgen
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-- 09-28-2020 @ 9:15 PM
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Well I got it home yesterday. On the windshield there is still the Tx. registration tag from 1979. In the area marked for the Vin. is F12264 Any ideas on what that number is? I will post a couple pics.
This message was edited by classicgen on 9-28-20 @ 9:17 PM
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