Topic: spare condenser hookup?


MICHV8    -- 04-04-2020 @ 6:29 AM
  My 39 suddenly had no spark so I just guessed it was the condenser and replaced it with a
NAPA ECH IH200 which was much longer than what was on the car. I was concerned
that the tube might contact the distributor post and cause problems, but the car starts so I am happy
in my ignorance.
However, I remember Bob said he always carries a spare condenser with alligator clips
and I started wondering if having two on the car would cause a problem if the suspected
bad condenser started working while the emergency condenser was clipped on?



TomO    -- 04-04-2020 @ 10:18 AM
  You should remove the bad condenser before installing the spare condenser. Condenser failure can be one of two modes, shorted or open.

If the condenser is shorted, installing another condenser across it will not solve anything as the electrician will take the easiest path to ground, through the shorted condenser.

If the condenser is open, the parallel connection would cause the capacitance to double if the bad condenser started to work. This could happen with a bad solder job on the grounding tab of the condenser. Doubling the capacitance would cause the points to pit, but they have already pitted due to the failure of the installed condenser.

the IH200 is the wrong condenser for your car. Go to Napa online and select the year of the Ford that matches your distributor and get the correct condenser. Check your points for pitting and correct dwell.

Tom


supereal    -- 04-07-2020 @ 3:26 PM
  I carry a spare condenser in my "road kit". I put a condenser in a large plastic pill bottle and have a pair of clip leads attached. Condensers usually go open, rather than short, so the emergency condenser can be clipped between ground and the terminal on the coil to get you home.


JayChicago    -- 04-08-2020 @ 2:32 AM
  Whats the symptom of a failed condenser? No spark? Weak spark? Or does it depend on what type of failure?


GM    -- 04-08-2020 @ 12:25 PM
  You have the IH-200 installed wrong?? I use the mounting clamp
that came with the IH-200 and use that to hold the condenser under
the screw on the drivers side of the coil that holds the coil on the
distributor. Screw the lug on the end of the condenser wire onto
the brass tab on the bottom of the coil. You shouldn't need a spare.
In the years since I introduced the IH-200 I never heard of a failure.
Maybe I will hear of some know?? A spare is a good thing to have
but a condenser can dry out in time. G.M.


GM    -- 04-08-2020 @ 12:51 PM
  Jay the symptoms of a bad condenser are similar to a bad coil.
Usually they work when they are cold and not when hot. Skip
requests people to send several old condensers in with their
coils when they have the coil rebuilt. He heats them with a heat
gun until he can't hold them with 2 fingers more than 2 seconds.
Then with an anolog volt ohm meter, this is a meter with a needle
not digital put it in a high ohm scale and touch one lead from the
meter to body of the condenser and the other lead the terminal.
Now switch the leads and the meter should jump up maybe 3/4".
Keep reversing the leads and the meter will slowly come down
and go back up. The condenser stores voltage. You can see the
voltage from the meter charges the condenser, as it shows each
time you change leads. G.M..

This message was edited by GM on 4-8-20 @ 1:03 PM


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