| JessicaM | -- 12-18-2018 @ 1:21 PM |
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Hi, I am new to the site. I am trying to find help in pricing a 37 Ford I inherited. My father was a car enthusiast and this one he did a frame off restoration. I am looking for some honest opinions on how I can get an accurate value. Thank you.
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| MG | -- 12-18-2018 @ 2:48 PM |
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Post some pictures of the car....
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| CharlieStephens | -- 12-18-2018 @ 3:17 PM |
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A lot depends on why you want the value. If you are trying to settle an estate "The Old Car's Price Guide" will give you a number in writing and the accountants always like that. You will need to establish the condition. Post a lot of pictures here and on fordbarn. Make a copy of the responses. Individual copies of The Old Cars Price Guide are usually available in larger book stores. If you put your general location in your profile people might be better able to point you in the right direction. The '37 roadsters are rare and you won't find much history of sales. Be sure to check the sold cars on EBAY. If you decide to sell it keep it for a year. You will probably change your mind and once it is gone it is gone. Charlie Stephens This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 12-18-18 @ 3:22 PM
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 12-18-2018 @ 3:21 PM |
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Are you sure it's a roadster and not a convertible. As Charlie mentions '37 roadsters are very scarce.
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-18-2018 @ 8:33 PM |
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Jessica, I'm sorry for your loss. As said above, a '37 Roadster is not just any Ford, and may well have been known to the Early Ford V8 Club as would your father. If you post his name here, and list any Concourse awards he may have received for its restoration, you should get some reliable numbers. Alan
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| JessicaM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 4:58 AM |
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I’m told it’s a roadster and the paperwork in the file mentions it as well. He passed away in the middle of this restoration so I had to make the decision to complete it which I did. My fathers plan was to go for the Dearborn award.
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| JessicaM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 5:00 AM |
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Here is a photo.
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| JessicaM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 5:01 AM |
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Here is a photo
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| JessicaM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 5:20 AM |
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The estate was settled and I am now the owner of the car. Lacking knowledge on the vehicle, I am hoping you guys can shed a little light.
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 12-19-2018 @ 7:05 AM |
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Jessica, it's a nice looking car but it's not a Roadster, it's a convertible. 1937 Roadsters are very rare and can be identified by a chrome/stainless, removable windshield.
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| cliftford | -- 12-19-2018 @ 7:07 AM |
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It looks like a roadster to me, no roll up windows. I'd say 30 to 40k if its as good as it looks. A lot depends on your location. Get a professional appraisal.
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 12-19-2018 @ 7:08 AM |
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Sorry Jessica, I should have mentioned this in my original post. Why not join the V-8 Ford Club of America. There isn't a better place to get information on your car. Membership includes a magazine called the V-8 Times that comes out every two months.
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| JessicaM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 7:24 AM |
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Thank you. I would like to join. I feel it is a roadster so yes I need it professionally appraised by someone who knows this year/model inside and out. My fathers mechanic and the restoration company claim it’s a rare car.
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| Model B | -- 12-19-2018 @ 7:49 AM |
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Jessica, A '37 similar to yours sold at Sotherby's (Scotsdale) recently for around $55K. I have also seen auction estimates in the $70-90K range (Mecum-2015). One also sold from the Nick Alexander collection about fours years ago. I didn't see the selling price for it. Here is a link for the Sotherby's listing: https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/SJ16/Motor-City/lots/r122-1937-ford-v-8-deluxe-roadster/238710
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-19-2018 @ 11:28 AM |
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Jessica, woodiewagon46 is wrong, it is a Roadster. He may be thinking of the 1936 windshield posts as being what is commonly referred to as "the last true roadster". Ford squeezed out one final Roadster with the '37, of which yours is a fine example. I agree, a professional appraisal is in order here. Your car deserves this investment, and also, as the Dearborn Award is so close, you'll enjoy completing the several minor issues remaining if you study the 1937 Ford book published by the EFV8CA. (online store, this website) The Dearborn will validate the value given by the appraisal, and you will have done right by your father's efforts as well as your own. Importantly, you should not expect a Dearborn the first showing unless you do those several corrections you'll find in the book. Alan
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| MG | -- 12-19-2018 @ 11:39 AM |
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Pleased that someone corrected woodiewagon46.....
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 12-19-2018 @ 12:23 PM |
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Thanks for the correction. For some reason, I thought that Ford produced a '37 Roadster (with removable windshield posts), but sold very few. I learn something every day.
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| CharlieStephens | -- 12-19-2018 @ 12:37 PM |
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Jessica, I suggested earlier you add your general location to your profile. With that information someone knowing a good appraiser might recommend them. Someone knowing a good local club might recommend it. Local clubs are listed on this web site: https://www.earlyfordv8.org/Regional_Club_Directory.cfm Best of luck, it is a very nice looking car. Charlie Stephens This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 12-19-18 @ 12:41 PM
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| TonyM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 1:06 PM |
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It is a Roadster. No cowl mounted windshield frame on the 37 Roadster; first time Ford did it that way. But that is definitely a Roadster. The owner might have to correct those hubcaps or she will be dinged when going for the Dearborn. . . . 78-730B This message was edited by TonyM on 12-19-18 @ 1:49 PM
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| 42oink | -- 12-19-2018 @ 4:43 PM |
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Hi JessicaM, Sorry about your dad. He did a nice job. Here is my two cents. DON'T be in a hurry to sell it. When you need to, you will have plenty of offers. Right now, get values, correct the things necessary to make it like your dad would have wanted, and lastly enjoy the heck out of it! I lost my wife of 47 years recently and she worked with me on my 37 Club Cabriolet and 42 Coupe. She didn't get a chance to really enjoy either one, but I know she is sitting in there with me every time I take one out. So, enjoy it like your dad might want. And thanks for sharing it with us. 42OINK
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| TomO | -- 12-19-2018 @ 6:36 PM |
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Jessica, I will add my condolences to the others on this site. Your roadster is a rare car and if you should join the Club so you can enjoy the car. On the left side of your screen click the MEMBERSHIP block and you will go right to the instructions on signing up. The Dearborn Award will certify your car as being correctly restored and it will add some value to the car. An appraisal is an estimate of the fair value of the car at a specific point in time. What this means is that it may sell for more or less depending upon the market at the time that the car is offered for sale. For insurance purposes, you will want to set a replacement value, that is the value it would cost to replicate the car. If you are planning on selling the car, your asking price should be set near a price that you are willing to accept and is close to market value of similar cars. Antique car insurance agents can help with setting a value. As a fresh restoration, your car should be in no.1 condition, even if it has some minor items that were not restored correctly. I hope that you join the club and tat I can see your car in real life at a National Meet. Tom
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| JessicaM | -- 12-19-2018 @ 7:23 PM |
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Thank you everyone for all the responses. I am pleased to know its a real Roadster and I feel inspired to go for the Dearborn award. First step, I will join the club. I am located in the Tampa area, so if you know of an appraisal company in this area, please let me know.
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| TomO | -- 12-20-2018 @ 12:46 PM |
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You probably do not need an appraisal, but I found this man very knowledgeable and meticulous when he did a pre-sale inspection for me in 2010. His report was very thorough and well supported by photos. He gave me a verbal report on the day of the inspection and then a written report with an estimate of value. He does not specialize in Early Fords, and he inspected a 53 Lincoln convertible for me . https://expertautoappraisals.com/about-us/ Expect to pay around $300 for a good appraisal and it will be obsolete within 1 month. You did not say why you wanted an appraisal. An appraisal is needed to satisfy the legal requirements of settling an estate, using the car as collateral for getting a loan, settling legal disputes and when you cannot personally inspect a car before purchase. In most other cases, you can use a value guide like Old Cars or Haggerty to set a value. Tom
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| CharlieStephens | -- 12-20-2018 @ 1:04 PM |
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Probably best to say "may be" required to settle an estate. I am sure it depends on the state. I settled my mother's estate (with a '57 T-Bird) with an "Old Cars Price Guide" and some photos. Charlie Stephens This message was edited by CharlieStephens on 12-20-18 @ 1:06 PM
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| ken ct. | -- 12-20-2018 @ 5:34 PM |
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If its not a roadster what are there snaps along the outer door edge for ???? ken ct.
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| ken ct. | -- 12-20-2018 @ 5:34 PM |
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If its not a roadster what are there snaps along the outer door edge for ???? ken ct.
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| JessicaM | -- 12-20-2018 @ 5:51 PM |
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Well the initial reason I was looking for an appraisal was because I wasn’t knowledgeable about the car, so I was looking for an expert help me understand the car and the value. I plan to hold off on selling at this time, so I may wait on appraising until I’m ready to sell.
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| TomO | -- 12-21-2018 @ 6:45 AM |
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My library subscribes to the Old Cars Price guide, yours may also do this or have an agreement with another library to use theirs. That will give you a good idea of the value of the car. Their value estimates are a good place to start. https://www.oldcarsbookstore.com/2019-collector-car-price-guide-r7730 Tom
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| trjford8 | -- 12-22-2018 @ 7:24 AM |
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Jessica, just one question. Does the car have roll up windows? If the tops of the doors are solid and there are no roll up windows it is indeed a roadster. If there is roll up windows it is a cabriolet (convertible). As mentioned the hub caps are painted wrong. If you join the V-8 Club you will get a roster of members who are listed by state. I'm sure there will be members found in your area that can help you with your car.
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| 3w2 | -- 12-22-2018 @ 4:29 PM |
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One of the most frustrating aspects of this forum and that of fordbarn.com is that people weigh in without bothering to read what has been posted previously.
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-23-2018 @ 12:02 AM |
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Exactly right. I've been wanting to sound off about that problem for a very long time, and something tells me it ain't gonna get any better as we all gently age. I wonder, are we becoming closer to Old Henry himself? Alan
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-23-2018 @ 12:03 AM |
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Exactly right. I've been wanting to sound off about that problem for a very long time, and something tells me it ain't gonna get any better as we all gently age. I wonder, are we becoming closer to Old Henry himself? Alan
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| 40cpe | -- 12-23-2018 @ 6:34 AM |
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What identifies the car in the picture definitely as a roadster, other than the snaps on the door? I've read back through the thread a couple of times and don't see where anyone gives the give-a-way detail. I'm not the expert on that model and wonder if a cabriolet could be "modified" into a roadster? This message was edited by 40cpe on 12-23-18 @ 7:54 AM
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| TomO | -- 12-23-2018 @ 8:18 AM |
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You could probably make a cabriolet into a roadster. Here is a link to the 1937 full line brochure. It doesn't give any differences between the roadster and the cabriolet. The most obvious is that the top is different and there are no roll up windows and the glass windwings were also standard. A 37 Ford nut may know if there were other differnces. http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Ford/1937_Ford/1937%20Ford%20Full%20Line%20Brochure/index1.html Jessica, your car is missing the bumper guards and wind wings as well as having the hub caps painted wrong. See the drawings in the brochure to see how the hub caps should look. I suggest that you get the Club's 37 book and take some photos of all four sides of the car, the interior, engine compartment and chassis to send to the Club's 1937 Advisor for comments. This will save some heartbreak when you put your car up for judging. Tom
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| 3w2 | -- 12-23-2018 @ 8:36 AM |
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Alan, Along with the echoes from heavy fingers on 'submit reply'.
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| 3w2 | -- 12-23-2018 @ 8:44 AM |
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From the photos that Jessica provided, apart from the doors, the top irons are those of a roadster and not of a cabriolet. The roadster top irons do not have to provide for sealing of the door window top and back side and are constructed accordingly. Yes, you can make a roadster from a cabriolet by modifying the upper part of the doors, but the real challenge is either finding the right top irons, which are unique to '37 roadsters, or making up a set. There are other differences as well, including the package tray.
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-23-2018 @ 11:31 AM |
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Well, shucks, this is like the "Find the animals" pictures on cereal boxes! It is kinda fun, and at this point not really criticizing at Jessica's expense, but rather, poking fun at each other, so here goes my list of incorrect items:: Bumpers upside down Missing bumper guards Missing trim rings Hubcap paint missing beltline stripe Missing V8 on the grille Wiper blades too long to park 81A headlight lens Missing wind wings Package tray Alan
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| mhsprecher | -- 12-24-2018 @ 6:22 PM |
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Nice car. I wish my garage looked like that.
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| TonyM | -- 12-24-2018 @ 11:01 PM |
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Another missing item for would be the stainless steel running board trim. It's a nice car. I would love to own it. . . . 78-730B This message was edited by TonyM on 12-24-18 @ 11:08 PM
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-24-2018 @ 11:47 PM |
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Tony, Good call. If it was a snake, it would have bit me. Alan
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| trjford8 | -- 12-25-2018 @ 7:12 AM |
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From the comments by a couple of people it looks like some that comment here are less than perfect. As for the echo comment there is a glitch in this site's system that needs to be fixed. It does not happen on any other site that I visit. Sure sometimes people comment on topics that may be a little off the subject at hand, but it just happens. The last thing we need not do is chase people away from this site because they may have made a comment that was not right on target. This site cannot afford to lose members.
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| 3w2 | -- 12-25-2018 @ 8:49 AM |
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Put yourself in Jessica's place. She has asked for knowledgeable help and plans to show the car. If anything goes, how is she going to separate the wheat from the chaff?
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| 37RAGTOPMAN | -- 12-26-2018 @ 11:12 AM |
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HI Jessica nice 37 FORD ROADSTER it is a ROADSTER, has no roll up windows, and the side curtain buttons on the top of doors, this is about the only difference, that there is, between a ROADSTER and CABRIOLET 78-760-A 1937 Never has a fold down windshield, I did see it seemed to have 1938 hub caps, I have owned a CABRIOLET since 1974 and the CABRIOLETS had roll up windows, which I prefer, hope this helps 37 RAGTOPMAN , MAINE I posted a picture of my 1937 CABRIOLET, RUMBLE SEAT
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| CharlieStephens | -- 12-26-2018 @ 12:09 PM |
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Jessica, You have a VERY nice car. Keep in mind that the comments are intended to be constructive and people are not trying to say that it is not a VERY nice car. In fact there are very few cars as nice as yours. If someone tells you something is not correct, be sure to verify that what they say is correct before you change anything. There is a lot of misinformation out there. Go slow and the best of luck. Charlie Stephens
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| 3w2 | -- 12-26-2018 @ 2:17 PM |
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Charlie, Right on! Immediately above your note is another good example of not bothering to read or comprehend that which preceded. Jessica, Your hubcaps are fine; they're '37s and just need to have some of the paint removed. This message was edited by 3w2 on 12-26-18 @ 2:20 PM
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| 3w2 | -- 12-26-2018 @ 2:25 PM |
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Jessica, The area on your hubcaps where they were 'over-painted' is shown in the photo below.
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| TonyM | -- 12-26-2018 @ 4:08 PM |
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I love the look of the 1937 hubcaps. . . . 78-730B
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| JessicaM | -- 01-09-2019 @ 9:32 AM |
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THank you all! I'm just getting around to reading all the messages after the holidays! You guys are a world of knowledge on this Ford!
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| BobWatts | -- 01-09-2019 @ 8:57 PM |
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I'm sorry for your loss. Your Dad chose a beautiful car to restore and it looks superb. I love the color! I inherited some nice old Fords from my Dad as well and when I work on them it feels like he's looking over my shoulder and reminds me of the times we worked together. I hope you can keep and enjoy it for a while or forever. Good luck. Inherited my Dad's 29-Pick up,30-Coupe,34-Cabriolet,36-5 window and 40 Hot Rod.
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| coilover | -- 01-16-2019 @ 11:13 PM |
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I had a 37 rumble seat cabriolet (or was it a convertible?) and it did not have the hub caps painted body color. Is this right?
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| 42oink | -- 01-19-2019 @ 11:08 AM |
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Welcome to the club, Jessica. You obviously stirred some interest. Please let us ALL know what you do with you Ford and as I said before, hope you keep and enjoy it. Keep in touch. 42oink
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