| autoluke | -- 12-02-2018 @ 9:46 AM |
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After setting the toe in to spec on my '41, and installing new FRONT tires, I still have a "slippery" feel when turning in either direction. Possible that the 50%tread on the REAR tires are the problem ?
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-02-2018 @ 10:25 AM |
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Not sure what "slippery" means, but toe-in is mainly to return the wheels back to straight forward after a turn, and to help keep it there. Alan This message was edited by ford38v8 on 12-2-18 @ 10:27 AM
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| CharlieStephens | -- 12-02-2018 @ 11:15 AM |
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If you put your general location in your profile maybe someone could suggest a good front end shop that could check out the car and tell you what it needs. Charlie Stephens
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| cliftford | -- 12-02-2018 @ 7:54 PM |
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I thought caster caused the wheels to return to straight forward position.
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-02-2018 @ 11:48 PM |
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Cliftford, Actually, you're right, but so am I. Both toe-in and caster are required to reduce driver fatigue in keeping the car pointed straight ahead. Camber is in there also, but I think that's getting into the actual steering going round the turns more than straight ahead. If I understand it correctly, without toe-in, the car wanders due to the inconsistencies of the road, and you're right, the caster helps pull it back to straight line after a turn, but can't keep it there without the toe-in. Alan This message was edited by ford38v8 on 12-2-18 @ 11:48 PM
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| autoluke | -- 12-03-2018 @ 3:55 AM |
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Charlie...Good advice. I am located in North Andover, Massachusetts.
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| TomO | -- 12-03-2018 @ 7:11 AM |
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autoluke, you still didn't explain "slippery". Do you have to make constant corrections when going down the road? Do you have to continue to correct the turning radius when turning (oversteer where the car turns faster than it should, understeer where the car tries to go in a straight line)? What kind of tires do you have, radial or bias ply? Does the car have any modifications from stock? Tom
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| woodiewagon46 | -- 12-03-2018 @ 7:54 AM |
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To add what TomO asks, what shape are the front end components in, has the front end been rebuilt?
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| shogun1940 | -- 12-03-2018 @ 6:42 PM |
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Henry diorio is a member and he has gen, rebuilding business in n. Reading or Chelmsford , he could probably recommend a good shop. Look in the member book
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| shogun1940 | -- 12-03-2018 @ 6:42 PM |
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Henry diorio is a member and he has gen, rebuilding business in n. Reading or Chelmsford , he could probably recommend a good shop. Look in the member book
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| autoluke | -- 12-04-2018 @ 4:23 AM |
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Thanks to all... All front end components are new, including king pins, tie rods, and steering system. Easily held to straight ahead operation, but wants to swerve when turning, resisting return to forward.
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| ford38v8 | -- 12-04-2018 @ 9:38 AM |
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That sounds like you have adjusted for toe-out instead of toe-in. Race cars are set up that way for quick steering response, but for road travel, you'll experience oversteer. Alan
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| TomO | -- 12-04-2018 @ 9:39 AM |
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Please answer all of the previous questions. We cannot help you with the information supplied. Tom
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| 51woodie | -- 12-04-2018 @ 12:36 PM |
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autoluke. I had a bit different problem, in that my '46 had a slight tendency to wander. All the front end was tight, as well as the rear suspension. I checked the toe in as best I could at home, but decided to take it the FORD dealer to have the alignment checked. All was good except for the toe in, which the Tech adjusted. Much nicer to drive now. The only challenge was for the Tech to convert the inch dimension spec to degrees for the alignment machine. I guess my measurement was not accurate enough.
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| shogun1940 | -- 12-04-2018 @ 4:55 PM |
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Camber and king pin inclination keep the tires straight up and down with a imaginary line through the king pin to the center of the tire contact on the ground Caster keeps the car going straight helps return the wheels to straight ahead Toe in compinsates for the play in the tie rod ends Toe out on turns is for two different radius’s on turns.
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| supereal | -- 12-21-2018 @ 2:20 PM |
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Check the ball on the front axle "wishbone" to be sure it has the rubber ball cover (11A-3440-A). Most suppliers have them. We get ours from C&G, about $12. If the wishbone (radius rod) is not firmly clamped, any movement will affect steering.
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