Topic: Flathead identification?


0352Marine    -- 11-03-2018 @ 6:44 PM
  I just bought this flathead for my project and I’m needing some help with identification year and cubic inch. On the Bellhousing there is an L stamped at the top. Then off to the passenger side it has E202. I’m not sure if these are the original heads but these were on it when I picked it up today. The guy I bought it from said that everyone has been hounding him to sell it to them. He said it’s a truck engine and it is supposed to be the 110 hp but I’m not sure and I would like to know.If anyone can help out that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

This message was edited by 0352Marine on 11-3-18 @ 6:49 PM


0352Marine    -- 11-03-2018 @ 6:46 PM
  Added picture


0352Marine    -- 11-03-2018 @ 6:47 PM
  Added picture


0352Marine    -- 11-03-2018 @ 6:50 PM
  Picture added


40cpe    -- 11-03-2018 @ 7:54 PM
  Everything looks to me like the '49-'51 8BA 100 HP rated engine. I don't think is has the rotator valves found in the '52-'53 engines, or the higher compression EAB heads. None of the above makes significant difference, just hope for a crack-free block to rebuild.

EDIT: It was a 239" engine when produced, a little more now if it has been rebuilt/bored.

This message was edited by 40cpe on 11-4-18 @ 6:00 AM


39 Ken    -- 11-04-2018 @ 5:41 AM
  8BA engines had a stamping on the right
rear area of the intake manifold surface.
If you can find these numbers and letters,
you can decode them to get the date the engine
was manufactured.
Post them here. Some one will have the
49 to 53 book that has the information and will
decode it for you.


0352Marine    -- 11-04-2018 @ 3:19 PM
  Hey thanks for the information 40cpe and 39 ken. If you look closely at the picture of the head you can see 8BA on. Now I know it’s possible that the original heads could have been removed a long time ago.


Do you know if I can run this Offenhauser kit I have. I know that it’s a 24 stud but is there anything else that I’m missing? A family member told me that these aluminum heads can warp but these are not and they aren’t a reproduction head but an original kit from Offenhauser. Anything I should look for and also with these heads what type of head gasket should I run? Graphite or copper and what thickness? And finally what is a good performance cam to run on the street? I don’t want anything too radical but something that has a good bump and that I don’t have to modify my heads for valve clearance issues.


trjford8    -- 11-04-2018 @ 4:06 PM
  The heads and intake manifold are for an earlier motor (48 and back). The intake has no provision for a road draft tube and there is a difference in how the water jackets in your motor line up with the ports in the heads.


trjford8    -- 11-04-2018 @ 4:06 PM
  The heads and intake manifold are for an earlier motor (48 and back). The intake has no provision for a road draft tube and there is a difference in how the water jackets in your motor line up with the ports in the heads.


0352Marine    -- 11-04-2018 @ 7:11 PM
  What is the road draft tube and how does it work?


trjford8    -- 11-05-2018 @ 6:21 AM
  The road draft tube is a crankcase breather tube to vent crankcase fumes/gases.


trjford8    -- 11-05-2018 @ 6:21 AM
  The road draft tube is a crankcase breather tube to vent crankcase fumes/gases.


40cpe    -- 11-05-2018 @ 6:48 AM
  The road draft tube works by a vacuum created at the end under the car by the speed of the driven car. The air enters at the oil fill tube cap, is pulled through the engine, and exits at the bottom taking crankcase fumes with it.


juergen    -- 11-05-2018 @ 8:55 AM
  But can't he use these heads and intake? I'm not a post 48 guy but many used this engine with early heads. I think you have to plug some water holes. Maybe this question can get an answer on Fordbarn.


0352Marine    -- 11-05-2018 @ 5:47 PM
  I believe that the heads that came with this engine in fact were not the heads that came originally because the seller sent me a picture of the engine awhile back and it has the pre-1948 heads with the coolant spout in the middle of the head. Here’s the original picture. So now my question is how to confirm what engine I actually have? Should I just measure the bore and stroke or maybe some different makers I may have missed?


carcrazy    -- 11-05-2018 @ 8:03 PM
  You have a 1948 or older engine as indicated by the integral bellhousing and the location of the coolant outlets on the top center of the heads.


TomO    -- 11-06-2018 @ 7:22 AM
  The original photo is from a 39-48 engine, the photos of the engine that you posted are from a 49-53 car or a 48-53 truck.

You did not specify what your project is and what transmission and frame that you are using. This could make a difference in what you need to do to make the engine work in your project. It certainly will make a difference in the parts that you will have to have to make the engine work.

Tom


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