Topic: 40 outside door handels


thunder road    -- 01-12-2018 @ 3:58 PM
  Was their more than two different length's of shaft on the 1940 ford outside door handles? The coupe and front doors of the sedan's I believe had long, and the rear door's of a four door had short right?

Domenic


kubes40    -- 01-13-2018 @ 6:54 AM
  There were deferent lengths of shafts respective of the model they were being installed upon. The convertible handle is yet another variance with its reverse threaded end.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth


TomO    -- 01-13-2018 @ 7:35 AM
  Here are the different lengths and the models that they fit:

Convertible 3" shaft
Tudor 2.60 shaft
Fordor Rear 3.10" shaft
Fordor Front and Coupe 3.20" shaft
Sedan Delivery rear door 3.32 Shaft

No lengths are given for Station Wagon and Mercury handles in the Body Parts catalog.

Tom


thunder road    -- 01-13-2018 @ 10:01 AM
  Hey Tom, thanks information I have a pair of mint ones coming in, but was told that they would have to be lengthened for the coupe. I was hoping that their were just two variations, same vendor is including some Junkier ones to use for shaft material for lengthen the mint ones. I wanted to have them ready before taking apart the ones that are on my car now. Also I wonder why the Tudor needed a different length shaft than the four door? Domenic

Domenic

This message was edited by thunder road on 1-13-18 @ 10:03 AM


kubes40    -- 01-13-2018 @ 11:29 AM
  The doors are different widths requiring different lengths of the handle shafts.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth


thunder road    -- 01-13-2018 @ 7:00 PM
  Thanks Mike,and Tom , on my car one is original and one is a solid casting chromed piece. I will probably have to wait to modify/ lengthen the pair I have coming in until we go to do the car, and then compare it to the one original existing handle.

Domenic


TomO    -- 01-14-2018 @ 9:48 AM
  You might want to use key stock to lengthen the shaft. The "junkier" ones may be worn in the area that operates the lock. Those measurements are taken from the face of the handle that fits against the door, to the end of the shaft.

Tom


thunder road    -- 01-14-2018 @ 2:37 PM
  Tom how much of the shaft works the lock? If 1/2 inch or so can't I just cut that section off then cut what I need off to make up 3.20 for the coupe. I am getting two Junker ones for material . I want to just bevel both ends and clamp them to a piece of angle and torch weld them , keeping a wet rag on the handle. I hope I don't need to go looking for a Tig. Domenic

Domenic

This message was edited by thunder road on 1-14-18 @ 2:38 PM


trjford8    -- 01-15-2018 @ 7:03 AM
  There are lots of those handles around. Unless you want to do the extra work, you will find some nice ones at swap meets that don't need work.


kubes40    -- 01-15-2018 @ 10:31 AM
  Domenic, I have made many handles specific to the application needed at the time.
I tig weld them while both pieces of the square shaft are held in a "V" block. You'll need to get the shaft very straight.
Most of the handles I've made are for convertibles. I've found it much easier to make a shaft with the proper "reverse" threads on the end and subsequently tig weld that to a closed car handle (shaft).

Mike "Kube" Kubarth


thunder road    -- 01-15-2018 @ 1:16 PM
  Hey thank you both for the information. I did not realize that the end of the shaft had reverse threads in it. If the end is where the wear takes place then I probably will have to drill and tap the cut off end. I think I am going to need to get a reverse tap as I believe my craftsman set only makes regular threads . The vender told me that he heard of somebody that removes the stainless wrap then removes any and all dents puts it back together and polishes it to like new condition. I've done my share of Tig welding in the past, mostly it's about using a piece of scr*p to get your amperage setting's right and practice so you don't blow the piece away. I like the vee block idea, also bevel the ends to be welded. Domenic

Domenic

This message was edited by thunder road on 1-15-18 @ 1:27 PM


kubes40    -- 01-15-2018 @ 2:31 PM
  ONLY the convertible (handles) have the reverse outer threads as well as a tapped hole in the end of the shaft.

Mike "Kube" Kubarth


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