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EFV-8 Club Forum / General Mercury Discussion / starter removal

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TomO
07-29-2014 @ 6:16 AM
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Earls50flat, have you solved your starter problem?

Tom

len47merc
07-13-2014 @ 12:14 PM
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Dove tailing with TomO's last comment, pulling the spark plugs may facilitate more movement as well.

Steve

TomO
07-13-2014 @ 8:41 AM
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Try putting the trans in first gear to give more movement when you try to push the car backwards. You must get the engine to turn backwards a small amount in order to free the Bendix from the ring gear. They usually make a loud noise when they break loose.

It would be easier if you had a 51 or later as they had a small inspection pan that could be removed.

Tom

earls50flat
07-13-2014 @ 7:57 AM
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Still fighting with it. Rocked it in gear several times. Still no luck. Will be trying again. Am not sure what to try next. There is no movement. It is as if it is still attached which it is not. I will continue to work on it but am open to suggestions.

len47merc
07-13-2014 @ 7:20 AM
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Did you succeed in removing your starter? If so, what are your removal process and physical observations and what did you ultimately find? Thanks -

Steve

TomO
07-10-2014 @ 6:16 AM
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If you do not have this bracket (P/N 8A-11140) you should get one and install it. The bracket helps to support the starter and keeps it from twisting and the resultant jamming of the Bendix drive.

Tom

len47merc
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Attached is a pic of an installed bracket. Hopefully this will help clarify location and the potential interference impact on removal of a fully assembled starter.

Steve

len47merc
07-10-2014 @ 3:59 AM
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With your starter now apart don't worry so much about the starter bracket - TomO's suggestion is likely to solve your issue and the increased clearance realized by the starter now being apart will facilitate the 'tilting' requirement. The small bracket should still be attached to an oil pan bolt near the front end of the starter nearest the engine - the through bolt on the engine side of the starter passes through the small bracket before entering the starter.

Is the starter's rear end plate loose or tightly stuck to the oil pan? Is there any play in the interface between this part and the mating surface with the oil pan? If not and it is still tightly adhered you will need to break that bond. If this is the case try a light application of penetrating oil/release agent like PB Blaster or equivalent to the full perimeter and then work on getting that released, taking care as Alan noted not to damage/bend/deform the oil pan in the process. Tapping with a soft wooden/plastic/rubber mallet, additional use of a similar material 'punch', along with rotating with your hands all may be required for the end plate. Until this is loose be careful not to apply too much leveraging pressure to the front of the armature so as to protect the interface between the armature and the starter's rear end plate.

Steve

This message was edited by len47merc on 7-10-14 @ 4:02 AM

CharlieStephens
07-09-2014 @ 9:42 PM
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The connection to the oil pan is a bracket located at the front of the starter that attaches to the oil pan. They are usually left off when the starter is worked on but should be there. C&G has them in their catalog: http://cgfordparts.com/ufolder/cgcat.php?searchtype=Search&year_choice=40&searchtextdesc=starter+bracket&sd=Search&searchnumber=

Charlie Stephens

TomO
07-09-2014 @ 8:00 PM
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The bracket that connects to the pan is on the starter bolt nearest to the pan.

It seems like your Bendix drive might hung up on the flywheel. Try putting the trans in 3rd and try to rock the car backwards. If the Bendix is hung up, the car will not move, keep rocking it until you hear the Bendix break loose.

Tom

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