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Posted By Discussion Topic: oil filter -- page: 1 2 3     kubes40 01-26-2011 @ 9:34 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Dan, Be advised that there were two correct but very different routings of the lines and requisite clamps, etc. Also the lines were cloth covered and lacquered - not smooth rubber. The first routing was utilized until nearly May of 1940 so that should be the one most commonly seen on the concourse. In reality the later routing is more often seen as it is more readily available. Check my reply dated Nov. 26th within this subject for details. Also, check the post dated Nov. 28th for a great photo of all the pieces. Mike Kubarth This message was edited by kubes40 on 1-26-11 @ 5:45 PM TomO 01-26-2011 @ 8:16 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7243 Joined: Oct 2009 The hoses are shown earlier in this topic along with the hardware to route them. I have attached a copy of the installation instructions. These hoses and hardware are not reproduced, so if you are going to have your car judged, you will have to look for Ford hoses or not install the filter. Tom danbook 01-25-2011 @ 11:22 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 10 Joined: Nov 2010 In restoring my 1940 station wagon, I am installing an oil filter. The vehicle did not have one but I found a good used canister and mounted it on the left cylinder head. I didn't get any lines or fittings with the canister. Can someone tell me about the plumbing so I can connect the canister correctly? The 1940 Ford Book suggests both inlet and outlet lines were flexible, which I assume means black rubber. Thanks! Chris ------------------------------------------------------- about your post can you post or puta a link of the pictures how did you put it so i can help you with your problem so hard to tell opinions if i haven't seen it you know thanks! supereal 12-21-2010 @ 9:00 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 6819 Joined: Oct 2009 Here's a tip for sending pictures: Be sure they are compressed into "JPEG" format so they can be downloaded in manageable size and time. To do this, bring up the picture from your file and choose "export file format". You will get a box to start the process, and when it is done, just save it to a convenient file before you click on "image attachment" below the reply box on this format. alanwoodieman 12-20-2010 @ 4:53 PM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 864 Joined: Oct 2009 regardless of the "DATE" of your filter installation, make SURE you have the required restrictor fitting for the filter, if not, you will not have much, if any oil pressure!! On a 40 tudor that I drove, I put a return line to the pan, like the 59A engine have, on the 40 wagon I now have I do not run a filter, change oil every 1000 miles. The truth being the filters did very little good when they were new-only filtered something like 5% of the oil, but an extra quart and the filter housing had to remove some heat from the engine and even a little bit can only help TomO 12-13-2010 @ 6:59 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7243 Joined: Oct 2009 Mr. Lincoln, the return line that goes to the distributer bolt must be at least 24" in length in order to work. I have 2 NOS replacement hoses that are this length. The replacement P/N is 01A-6718 and the one that came in a box was made sometime after Ford changed to the FoMoCo logo for parts. The one that came in the Fram kit was 25". The 2/20/40 parts catalog was published before the change over around the May 1940 and probably refers to the hose that connected to the fuel pump stand. Tom This message was edited by TomO on 12-13-10 @ 7:04 AM Lincoln 12-11-2010 @ 5:00 PM reply profile send p.m. Member Posts: 56 Joined: Oct 2009 1.Mike: The "stud-like fitting" referred to is for the earlier 1940 oil filter as shown in the left side view. The correct part is #51-18670 and is labeled "bolt" in the Parts Lists. I have a NOS one that was tagged with this number. It measures 1 1/4" long with a 5/16"-18 male thread on one end and 3/8"-45 degree male tubing thread on the other, with a 7/16" Hex in between. The "1937 BOOK" shows this bolt. Your Fitting/bolt looks like it has a brass fitting or something on the right end. That's why it looks "different". Of course, the supplier may have had 2 different styles. I do not mean to belabor the point. Yes, researching any of the Branch Letters (Service, Sales, etc.) requires time and patience as there is no INDEX to guide you. In order to make sure that you do not miss something, you have to go through them page by page, which takes time. Thanks for sharing your info. 2.Tom: Thanks for the supply hose length.I missed this length when reviewing the Chassis Parts List. On the return oil line, there seems to be a conflict on its length as the 9/4/40 Service Tips Letter, mentioned previously, gives a length of 25", while the 2/20/40 Chassis Parts & Price List specifies the oil return line 01A-18667-A to be 19" long. Can not explain the difference unless the return line lengths were changed during that time period. TomO 12-08-2010 @ 7:47 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 7243 Joined: Oct 2009 Mr. Lincoln, the supply hose is listed in the parts catalog as 21" and that agrees with the supply hose that I received in a Fram kit for the Ford application. Tom kubes40 12-02-2010 @ 6:35 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Mr. Lincoln, Your work with the service letters had to be a long, tedious task! I have currently the letters from 1939 through 1941 that you had inspected and made notes upon. Thus, I am beginning to understand the work involved! I am not certain which 'stud like fitting' you refer to in the photo. The one on the left is the early style as you suggest and that 'stud' is the fitting that replaces the fuel pump bolt. The one on the right is the later type and used to hold the banjo fitting to the distributor / timing cover. ALL of the pieces will be labeled and noted within the text of the book. What I had posted was a very rough draft. I did not have any instructions within the NOS filter (box). Best regards, Mike Kubarth kubes40 12-02-2010 @ 6:30 AM reply profile send p.m. Senior Posts: 3370 Joined: Oct 2009 Hi Alan, I see I need to clarify my post in regard to whitewall tires on '40 Fords. Sorry... I was dead tired when I wrote my last response. SINGLE whitewall tires were NOT available on 1940 Fords until the very end of May, 1940. Double whitewalls were. i realize as you certainly do that the actual date of availability didn't start exactly on May 30th. However, that leaves a LOT of 1940 Fords on the concourse with incorrect (single whites) on them. Respectfully, Mike

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